otra ubicación (in this context)

English translation: or similar enclosure

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Spanish term or phrase:u otra ubicación
English translation:or similar enclosure
Entered by: James A. Walsh

16:06 Mar 2, 2010
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
IT (Information Technology) / Backups
Spanish term or phrase: otra ubicación (in this context)
The text is talking about where backup media must be stored.

Am a little unsure whether "otra ubicación" is referring to "another physical location" or "similar location" (as in, similar to a safe).

Here's the context:

"Los soportes que contengan este tipo de información, deberán estar salvaguardados de cualquier amenaza física y ambiental en armarios ignífugos con llave u otra ubicación donde se utilicen controles de acceso físico o lógico que aseguren la confidencialidad y la integridad de la misma"

And my attempt:

"Media containing this type of data must be safeguarded from physical and environmental hazards in a lockable fireproof safe, or similar secure enclosure, with physical or logical access controls in place to ensure the confidentiality and integrity of the data."

Do you think "similar secure enclosure" or just "similar enclosure" would be an accurate rendition here?

Thanks in advance.
James A. Walsh
Spain
Local time: 11:39
other safe/secure location
Explanation:
Would this work?

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safe **or other secure location, and access to these locations must be restricted to responsible individuals.*** The carrier is to maintain a log in order that ...
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Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 11:39
Grading comment
Just doing a bit of KudoZ admin this evening, and I reckon your answer was closest to what I eventually went with actually. I just realised there’s a new option to “un-close” a question, so I’ve opted for that and am now awarding points - hooray!!

Thank you Lisa and everyone for your help :-)

This is what I went with in the end:

Full Pragraph:

Las copias de seguridad que guarden Información Restringida, deberán permanecer almacenadas un mínimo de dos años, estando accesibles únicamente por personal correctamente autorizado. Los soportes que contengan este tipo de información, deberán estar salvaguardados de cualquier amenaza física y ambiental en armarios ignífugos con llave u otra ubicación donde se utilicen controles de acceso físico o lógico que aseguren la confidencialidad y la integridad de la misma.

Translation delivered:

Backups containing
Restricted Data must be stored for a minimum of two years, and must only be accessed by duly authorised staff. Media containing this type of data must be safeguarded from physical and environmental hazards in a lockable fireproof safe or similar enclosure, with physical or logical access controls in place to ensure the confidentiality and integrity of the data.

3 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +3another physical location
Cecilia Rey
4 +1other safe/secure location
Lisa McCarthy
5or other locations where the XXX are ---
Xenia Wong
4or some other place / or somewhere else (see below)
margaret caulfield
3o condiciones similares
Vanesa Camarasa (X)


  

Answers


9 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
o condiciones similares


Explanation:
I rather go for "condiciones similares", seems more correct to me and it encloses more options.

Vanesa Camarasa (X)
Spain
Local time: 11:39
Native speaker of: Spanish
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22 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
other safe/secure location


Explanation:
Would this work?

MWE Help - Migration FAQs
Any CDs/DVDs created should be kept in a locked drawer or **other safe location**. How do I detox? Please refer to the Email Detox guidance (Word doc) from the ...
mwehelp.cf.ac.uk/migration/migfaq.html - Cached - Similar

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Note added at 24 minutos (2010-03-02 16:31:36 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

Items to Keep in a Safe Deposit Box | eHow.co.uk
Keeping paperwork and items protected is as simple as renting a box at a bank ***or other secure location**, then advising your dependents or lawyer of the ...
www.ehow.co.uk/list_5994454_items-keep-safe-deposit-box.htm... -

#
Harm Reduction Journal | Full text | Safe storage of methadone in ...
by RN Bloor - 2005 - Cited by 5 - Related articles
... is recalled by a minority of patients, and the vast majority of patients do not store their methadone in a locked cupboard **or other secure location***. ...
www.harmreductionjournal.com/content/2/1/9 - Cached - Similar


Brooks has attained certification as a member within the Customs ...
File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - Quick View
safe **or other secure location, and access to these locations must be restricted to responsible individuals.*** The carrier is to maintain a log in order that ...
www.brookseals.co.uk/images/product/pdfs/brooks_security_ne...



Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 11:39
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 59
Grading comment
Just doing a bit of KudoZ admin this evening, and I reckon your answer was closest to what I eventually went with actually. I just realised there’s a new option to “un-close” a question, so I’ve opted for that and am now awarding points - hooray!!

Thank you Lisa and everyone for your help :-)

This is what I went with in the end:

<u>Full Pragraph:</u>

“<i>Las copias de seguridad que guarden <b>Información Restringida</b>, deberán permanecer almacenadas un mínimo de dos años, estando accesibles únicamente por personal correctamente autorizado. Los soportes que contengan este tipo de información, deberán estar salvaguardados de cualquier amenaza física y ambiental en armarios ignífugos con llave <u>u otra ubicación</u> donde se utilicen controles de acceso físico o lógico que aseguren la confidencialidad y la integridad de la misma.</i>”

<u>Translation delivered:</u>

“<i>Backups containing
<b>Restricted Data</b> must be stored for a minimum of two years, and must only be accessed by duly authorised staff. Media containing this type of data must be safeguarded from physical and environmental hazards in a lockable fireproof safe <u>or similar enclosure</u>, with physical or logical access controls in place to ensure the confidentiality and integrity of the data.</i>“

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  neilmac: = another location. KIS ;)
16 mins
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20 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +3
another physical location


Explanation:
Para mí esta opción es correcta, ya que se refiere a una ubicación física.


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Note added at 42 mins (2010-03-02 16:49:26 GMT)
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Although in Spanish it does't say "ubicación física" you may add "physical" in the translation to avoid any ambiguity.

Cecilia Rey
Argentina
Local time: 07:39
Native speaker of: Spanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kevin G
2 mins
  -> Thanks Kevin

agree  neilmac: Likely they mean another location, such as a DRC or DPC (Disaster Recovery Centre/Data Protection Centre
17 mins
  -> I agree neilmac

agree  philgoddard: Just another location - it doesn't say "physical" in the Spanish.
17 mins
  -> You are right but it may be added to avoid ambiguity.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
or other locations where the XXX are ---


Explanation:
Según contexto...

Xenia Wong
Local time: 05:39
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in EnglishEnglish
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
or some other place / or somewhere else (see below)


Explanation:
I would leave out any type of adjective (safe, secure, etc.) since, due to the following part of the sentence, I think it would be totally redundant. Why not just keep it simple, as the original text does?

margaret caulfield
Local time: 11:39
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 20
Notes to answerer
Asker: Well, I don't want to keep it so simple, because I know that is not the case, and I really understand the process, and know it's NOT so clear-cut..

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