estado peligroso

English translation: /persons/ at risk

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Spanish term or phrase:	estado peligroso
English translation:	/persons/ at risk
Entered by:	Adrian MM.

23:43 Jun 6, 2020

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Social Sciences - Law (general)

Spanish term or phrase: estado peligroso

A footnote to an essay about Argentina's role in the International Penitentiary Congress:
Aunque pareciera exagerada esta conclusión, Paz Anchorena lamentaba en los años treinta que la biblioteca de la CIPP en Suiza solo conservaba, provenientes de nuestros país, los estudios de legislación de estado peligroso. Los acuses de recibo de literatura argentina especializada indican que los envíos fueron constantes, entre los que se encuentran los Códigos penales, diversos reglamentos provisorios y memorias de las prisiones del país, además de varios títulos vinculados a la criminología, el derecho penal y la medicina legal. Ignoramos si en los años posteriores este déficit bibliográfico se sostuvo

When I googled "estado peligroso" a great many clearly legal hits come up, which is not the case for "dangerous state" (it appear more general). Thanks

Wendy Gosselin KudoZ activity Questions: 2014 (6 open) (214 closed without grading) Answers: 2 Argentina
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(studies into legislation) on persons at risk / in a perilous state

Explanation:
We need to decide whether it is the estudios or legislation that is at risk or persons who end up in a 'perilous state'.

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Being at risk personally, so susceptible and liable to cause a risk to others in an anti-social campaign: surely it's a bit of both. From my experience, Sandinistas who set fire to an industrial factory are not at inherent risk from anything themselves, except from being caught for arson after the event.

Here is how the second ref. goes on and includes mendigos and mendigas.

TITULO II

CATEGORIAS DE ESTADO PELIGROSO

Art. 3.-Quedan sometidas a las disposiciones de esta ley las personas mayores de dieciocho años, que se encuentren en cualquiera de los estados de peligro que se mencionan en el artículo siguiente.

Art. 4.-Unicamente podrán ser declarados en estado peligroso y sometidos al tratamiento de las medidas de seguridad establecidas en esta ley:

1º-Los vagos habituales, es decir, los que sin tener medios lícitos de subsistencia y siendo aptos para el trabajo, no ejercen profesión u oficio, por causas dependientes de su voluntad.

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Adrian MM.
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(studies into legislation) on persons at risk / in a perilous state

Adrian MM.

unsafe conditions

Lisa Rosengard

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dangerous state

Taña Dalglish

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(estudios de legislación) de estado peligroso

(studies into legislation) on persons at risk / in a perilous state

rt. 4.-Unicamente podrán ser declarados en estado peligroso y sometidos al tratamiento de las medidas de seguridad establecidas en esta ley:

Reference: http://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic...
Reference: http://www.jurisprudencia.gob.sv/DocumentosBoveda/D/2/1950-1...

Adrian MM.
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unsafe conditions

Explanation:
On 'DeepL Translator', alternative suggestions to translate 'estado peligroso' were ' dangerous state', 'hazardous state' and 'unsafe condition'.

Example sentence(s):

Aunque pareciera exagerada esta condición, se lamentaba en los años treinta que en la biblioteca en Suiza sólo se conservaba, provenientes de nuestro país, los estudios de legislación de estado peligroso.
Although this condition may seem to be exagerated, it was lamented that in the 1930s, in a Swiss library, only those studies about legislation on unsafe conditions, which originated from our country, were conserved (stored with care).

Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
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dangerous state

Explanation:

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02rfWH9rjTcl0TWBhGL...

Specifically Argentina
Argentina: "dangerous state" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_Code_of_Argentina
Penal Code of Argentina - Wikipedia en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Penal_Code_of_Argentina
The Argentine Penal Code is the law that governs crimes and its sanction in the Argentine ... been numerous projects of reforms to the Code among others, the partial ones on the dangerous state of 1924, 1926, 1928 and 1932 and the one of ...

https://books.google.com.jm/books?id=SCBJAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA46&lp...
Report of the Delegates of the United States of America to ...books.google.com.jm › books
... section of the congress : ***Manuel G. Abastos : The theory of the " dangerous state " of the delinquent in our Penal Code.*** ... Maria J. Alvarado Rivera : Woman before the law. ... Alfredo O'Connell : Nationality and citizenship in Argentine law.
United States Department of State - 1925

Walter David Bulacio v. Argentina, Judgment (IACtHR, Sep. 18 ...www.worldcourts.com › iacthr › eng › decisions › 200...
PDF http://www.worldcourts.com/iacthr/eng/decisions/2003.09.18_B...
Sep 18, 2003 - those responsible in accordance with Argentine legislation. 2. ... sectors, under the ideology of a dangerous state without crime; second, these ...

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appear in legislation from the 1930s and 1940s have been ...
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The rationale in the original draft legislation submitted to Congress by the executive branch (12) notes that the purpose of the measure is to preserve the physical and mental integrity of drug users, achieve the recovery of drug users and safeguard security and the public order. In the editing of the text, references to
the “dangerousness” of the person or the use of the term “compulsory in-patient treatment” have been eliminated. Yet while explicit references to the paradigm of ***social defense and dangerous states*** that appear in legislation from the 1930s and 1940s have been replaced by less hygienist language, the spirit of the text is maintained. By appealing to the need to protect drug users’ health, the draft legislation aims to create a harsh and punitive social control mechanism that targets people who use illegal drugs (Sbrocca, 2013). Or, at least, people who the team of doctors and police who make up the consortium consider to be included within the highly indeterminate language of Article 1: “problem users in a crisis situation who constitute a risk to themselves or others.” The draft legislation allows for “involuntary in-patient treatment” for adults and refers to the Code for Children and Adolescents (Código de la Niñez y la Adolescencia, CNA) for those under age 18, which allows
the judge to order “compulsory in-patient treatment” with a medical request. The legislation on children and adolescents uses the term “compulsory in-patient treatment” to refer to inpatient treatment ordered by a judge on the basis of a medical report, while the draft legislation approved by the Senate uses the term “involuntary treatment” to refer to the medical action authorized by a judge after a person is detained in a public or private place in circumstances that are considered to merit the intervention of the Public Health Consortium.

12 The text approved by the Senate has undergone variations in editing. It is interesting to note some passages of the version submitted by the executive branch, which maintained almost word for word the language of Article 40 of DL
14.294 for compulsory treatment, which says that persons “found in the public thoroughfare or in uninhabited public or private places in circumstances leading to the assumption that they have used narcotic substances or that they just did so, or possess them for their personal use, when such circumstances pose a danger to themselves or to third parties, can be taken immediately to the Assistance Center designated by the Executive Branch for this purpose. The person can only be taken by personnel responsible for the System for Assistance to Victims of Narcotic Drug Use.” The text approved by the Senate repeals Article 40 of that law.

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drug users in argentina - Washington Office on Latin Americawww.wola.org › sites › default › files
PDF https://www.wola.org/sites/default/files/Drug Policy/In Sear...

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https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ALeKk02rfWH9rjTcl0TWBhGL...

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The original quote apparently comes from a paper entitled "El trabajo de los penados argentinos"...

Revista de Historia de las Prisiones nº7 (Julio-Diciembre 2018)
El trabajo de los penados argentinos alrededor del mundo. Eusebio Gómez en el IX Congreso Penitenciario Internacional (Londres, 1925)*
ISSN: 2451-6473
Convict labor around the world. Eusebio Gómez in the Ninth International Penitentiary Congress (London, 1925)

Resumen: Este trabajo pretende analizar la participación de la delegación argentina en el IX Congreso Penitenciario Internacional, realizado en Londres durante 1925. Focalizaremos principalmente en la presentación de Eusebio Gómez, director de la Penitenciaría Nacional (1923-1928). En este sentido, haremos un breve repaso en las participaciones previas de Argentina en el célebre evento, presentando sus lineamientos principales. La presentación de Gómez en el célebre evento revela la compleja relación entre la clasificación de penados, las ideas positivistas y el trabajo en las prisiones. Este artículo argumenta que en un momento de hegemonía de la criminología positivista, las ideas de los penitenciaristas se desarrollaron a traves de prácticas, procedimientos e intereses específicos. Palabras clave: Congreso Penitenciario Internacional, Eusebio Gómez, Penitenciaría Nacional, trabajo penitenciario.

Abstract:
This article analyzes the participation of the Argentine delegation in the IX International Penitentiary Congress, celebrated in London during 1925. We will focus on the report presented by Eusebio Gómez, the director of Buenos Aires National Penitentiary [Penitenciaría Nacional de Buenos Aires] (1923-1928). In this sense, we will make a brief overview about the previous Argentinian participations in the event. The report presented by Gómez in the congress reflects the complex relationship between convict classification, positivist ideas, and prison work. This article argues that in the hegemonic context of positivist criminology, the penitentiary ideas as developed as usual through specific practices, proceedings, and interests. Keywords: International Penitentiary Congress, Eusebio Gómez, Penitenciaría Nacional, convict labor.
* Una versión preliminar de este trabajo fue presentada en las II Jornadas Horizontes Historiográficos de los Estudios Penitenciarios que se celebraron en Tucumán los días 26 y 27 de Octubre de 2017. Agradezco las preguntas, comentarios y sugerencias de Daniel Fessler, Claudia Freindenraij, Alejo García Basalo, Luis González Alvo, Jorge Núñez, Jeremías Silva y Hernán Olaeta.

28. (ver: Del Olmo, 1981, pp. 83–84). Aunque pareciera exagerada esta conclusión, Paz Anchorena lamentaba en los años treinta que la biblioteca de la CIPP en Suiza solo conservaba, provenientes de nuestros país, **los estudios de legislación de estado peligroso.** Los acuses de recibo de literatura argentina especializada indican que los envíos fueron constantes, entre los que se encuentran los Códigos penales, diversos reglamentos provisorios y memorias de las prisiones del país, además de varios títulos vinculados a la criminología, el derecho penal y la medicina legal. Ignoramos si en los años posteriores este déficit bibliográfico se sostuvo.

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https://books.google.com.jm/books?id=0E9f4uSDdcUC&pg=PA204&l...
See pages 207 - 209 "estado peligroso" defined as "dangerousness"
Civilizing Argentina: Science, Medicine, and the Modern Statebooks.google.com.jm › books
... as the linchpin of liberal democratic justice in Argentina and elsewhere in the Atlantic world. ... dangerousness [estado peligroso] in criminal 204 HYGIENE.
Julia Rodríguez - 2006 - ‎History

https://books.google.com.jm/books?id=ZwPrhiFOLowC&pg=PA259&l...
Criminals and Their Scientists: The History of Criminology ...books.google.com.jm › books
Criminals and Their Scientists: The History of Criminology in International ...
edited by Peter Becker, Richard F. Wetzell
... doctrines of “social defense” and “dangerousness” (estado peligroso). ... Latécnica juridica Positivist Criminology and State Formation in Argentina 259.
Peter Becker, ‎Richard F. Wetzell - 2006 - ‎History
Page 259: At the center of the new consensus about social control were the interlocking doctrines of "social defense" and "dangerousness" (estado peligroso). ... An individual was said to be in a state of "dangerousness" when, by his or her psychic condition or acquired habits, he or she was likely to commit a crime, or more generally, to exhibit some degree of 'antisocial behaviour'.

The very ambiguity and open-ended nature of the concept of "dangerousness" gave criminologists reason to apply it to a growing number of anomalies and subjects.

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http://www.jurisprudencia.gob.sv/DocumentosBoveda/D/2/1950-1... (This link is from El Salvador) and your text is from Argentina, where the definition of un "estado peligroso" may be two different things. What I have provided are links from Argentina.

ORIGEN DEL PARADIGMA DE RIESGO - SciELOscielo.conicyt.cl › scielo
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En este mismo sentido O'MALLEY, Crime and Risk, cit. nota n° 4, pp. ... 400 research Studies on the effectiveness of treatment with juvenile delinquents? ... Aurelio, Buenos Aires: Siglo Veintiuno Editores Argentina, 1975/2008, p. ... Sobre este punto, latamente JIMENEZ DE ASUA, El estado peligroso, cit. nota n° 125, pp.
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