carácter patrimonial

English translation: a capital asset in nature

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Spanish term or phrase:carácter patrimonial
English translation:a capital asset in nature
Entered by: Jane Martin

15:10 Oct 3, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Spanish term or phrase: carácter patrimonial
In a collaboration contract for a start-up from Spain for translation to UK English.

A efectos del presente Acuerdo, “Derechos de Propiedad Intelectual e Industrial” son todos los derechos, generados en el marco del proyecto, reconocidos por la legislación de propiedad intelectual e industrial, que tengan *** carácter patrimonial *** o de explotación para cualquier finalidad y para cualquier modalidad de uso, su edición y divulgación sobre, a título enunciativo y no limitativo, marcas, nombres comerciales, software, manuales, patentes, modelos de utilidad, nombres de dominio, know –how, y demás activos intangibles, así como todos los derechos reconocidos por la legislación de propiedad industrial, incluidos en ambos casos la facultad de solicitar los registros e inscripciones oportunos para la obtención o protección de estos derechos.

I think it is this meaning of patrimonial,

4. m. Der. Conjunto de bienes pertenecientes a una persona natural o jurídica, o afectos a un fin, susceptibles de estimación económica.

But I'm not sure what the most accurate translation would be - 'proprietary' 'property'.... something else? TIA
Jane Martin
Local time: 02:17
a capital asset in nature
Explanation:
todos los derechos ---- que tengan carácter patrimonial o de explotación > all such rights .... as are in the nature of a capital* or a working** asset

The distinction drawn may be one between capital and income. I'll assume every reader knows the basic principles of accounting and/or revenue law.

*qualifying for depreciation charges and capital, writing-down allowances
** a working, revenue asset producing income
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Adrian MM.
Austria
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2a proprietary nature
liz askew
4 +1(have) financial value
philgoddard
3 +1a capital asset in nature
Adrian MM.
4patrimonial nature
Liliana Garfunkel
3intrinsic asset value
Lisa Rosengard
Summary of reference entries provided
"derechos patrimoniales"
John Rynne

Discussion entries: 2





  

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a proprietary nature


Explanation:

FAILURE OF CONTRACTS: CONTRACTUAL ...www.euppublishing.com › doi › pdfplus › elr.1998.2.3.368
to the proposals of the European Commission on Contract Law. The method is ... To apply restitutionary remedies of a proprietary nature here, therefore ...
by H Collins - ‎1998

liz askew
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:17
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 158

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  philgoddard: Property is proprietary by definition.
42 mins

agree  neilmac: "... or (which) may be exploited..."
2 hrs

agree  Christian [email protected]: In the US, at least for construction products, "proprietary" means something like "patented" (we are the only ones who make it).
4 days
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(have) financial value


Explanation:
I think that's what it means. They're assets of the company. You could continue "or can be used/exploited for any purpose".

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 489

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agree  EirTranslations
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a capital asset in nature


Explanation:
todos los derechos ---- que tengan carácter patrimonial o de explotación > all such rights .... as are in the nature of a capital* or a working** asset

The distinction drawn may be one between capital and income. I'll assume every reader knows the basic principles of accounting and/or revenue law.

*qualifying for depreciation charges and capital, writing-down allowances
** a working, revenue asset producing income

Example sentence(s):
  • IATE: déficit de capital déficit patrimonial en capital shortfall shortfall in own funds

    Reference: http://www.proz.com/?sp=gloss/term&id=1352040
Adrian MM.
Austria
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 278
Grading comment
Thank you.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Luis M. Sosa: Agree, I would probably drop 'capital'.
17 hrs
  -> Gracias and thanks. I tried to tap into the capital vs. income - working asset - distinction, palpably missing from the other asnwers.
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patrimonial nature


Explanation:
Intellectual and industrial property rights are all the rights recognised by intellectual property legislation that are of a patrimonial or exploitation nature for any purpose and for any modality of use...
https://www.fredolsen.es/en/legal-advice-privacy-policy

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Note added at 1 day 57 mins (2020-10-04 16:07:51 GMT)
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Well, I just found this, so maybe it will be more useful:
https://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish-to-english/law-taxation-c...

Liliana Garfunkel
Argentina
Local time: 23:17
Native speaker of: Spanish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Sadly this page you give as your reference is a bad translation - lots of errors - so I don't think is particularly useful here. But thank you anyway.

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1 day 7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
intrinsic asset value


Explanation:
It mentions the intellectual and industrial legislation on property which may have asset values or values connected with note-worthy deeds (exploits) for any conclusion or for any functional usage.

Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:17
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 8
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Reference comments


1 day 15 hrs
Reference: "derechos patrimoniales"

Reference information:
From what I can see, "derechos patrimoniales" are any type of ownership or possession rights: full title, bare ownership, usufruct, emphyteusis, pledges, mortgages,....
Referring to intellectual property, they include the right to reproduce, adapt, publish, distribute, perform publicly, ....


    https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derechos_patrimoniales
    https://dudas.derechosdigitales.org/caso/en-que-consisten-los-derechos-patrimoniales/
John Rynne
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 208
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Asker: Thanks John.

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