وإن علوا

English translation: and upwards

12:52 Jul 18, 2020
Arabic to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Religion / inheritance
Arabic term or phrase: وإن علوا
الدرجة الأولى: الآباء والأمهات والأجداد والجدات وإن علوا.
Ali Mourad
Egypt
Local time: 19:44
English translation:and upwards
Explanation:
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If your kinsfolk or Dhu Al-Arham are of the deserving recipients of Zakah, and you do not have to support them, meaning that they are not your children and downwards, or your parents and upwards, it is permissible to give...

https://www.alifta.gov.sa/En/IftaContents/PermanentCommitee/...
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Hassan Achahbar
Morocco
Local time: 18:44
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Summary of answers provided
5 +1and upwards
Hassan Achahbar
5however far back
Fuad Yahya
4...how so ever high
Amr elNagdi
3lineal descendant
Mai Saleh


  

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and upwards


Explanation:
See this:

If your kinsfolk or Dhu Al-Arham are of the deserving recipients of Zakah, and you do not have to support them, meaning that they are not your children and downwards, or your parents and upwards, it is permissible to give...

https://www.alifta.gov.sa/En/IftaContents/PermanentCommitee/...

Hassan Achahbar
Morocco
Local time: 18:44
Native speaker of: Arabic
PRO pts in category: 12

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agree  ABDESSAMAD BINAOUI
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  -> شكرا جزيلا
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...how so ever high


Explanation:
example: Grandfather of the deceased how so ever high

Amr elNagdi
Local time: 19:44
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
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however far back


Explanation:

In English, to show the generational stretch, you really need to introduce great-grandparents, because that is the point at which the series begins to look like a stretchy, repetitive chain. The following are the simplest options to choose from:

Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, etc.
Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on.
Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so forth.
Parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on and so forth.

Since the Arabic source text does not explicitly mention great-grandparents, you can skip them if you don't feel comfortable taking this liberty.

Also, since the Arabic source text splits parentage into fathers and mothers, you can reflect that in your translation if you feel so inclined:

Fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, and so forth.

The expressions above use an open-series structure. I am presenting these options in my answer first because they are the simplest. They are not necessarily the best in every type of document. If you prefer a closed-series structure, like the Arabic expression, you can try:

Fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, however far back.
Fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, as many generations back as the case may be.
Fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, up to whichever generation the case may be.

Fuad Yahya
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 231
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lineal descendant


Explanation:
A lineal descendant, in legal usage, is a blood relative in the direct line of descent – the children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. of a person.
And
A person who was born into or legally adopted into the direct line of an individual’s descent (e.g., children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren). Such a person is also called a lineal descendant, “direct” descendant, or “offspring” descendant.

Mai Saleh
Syria
Local time: 20:44
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic
PRO pts in category: 4
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