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edelfiguratie

English translation: bit part

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Dutch term or phrase:edelfiguratie
English translation:bit part
Entered by: Frank van Thienen (X)

21:50 Jan 19, 2009
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Cinema, Film, TV, Drama
Dutch term or phrase: edelfiguratie
De term slaat op casting, maar wat specifiek, begrijp ik niet.
Dit komt voor in een script (interpretatie) voor een film:
"Voor de meeste rolletje in de verschillende filmpjes kunnen we in Nederland of België de edelfiguratie wel vinden"
Frank van Thienen (X)
Canada
Local time: 22:42
bit part
Explanation:
Het is inderdaad een kleine rol: handeling, dan wel regel(s) tekst. Iets meer dan enkel figureren, ofwel in beeld verschijnen.

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Note added at 13 uren (2009-01-20 11:22:40 GMT)
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Although I myself would prefer to say I was an 'edelfigurant' (nice word!) than that I had a bit part, I think you do have to make a distinction from just being an extra, which would be 'figurant'. Walk-on seems to be somewhat the same as bit part, but for some reason I associate it more with the theatre. In the sentence given you could certainly go with 'actors for the supporting roles'.
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DJ Raats
Netherlands
Local time: 07:42
Grading comment
Iedereen van harte bedankt voor het meedenken!
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Summary of answers provided
5 +4bit part
DJ Raats
4extras
Bruce Gordon
3 -1cameo part
Jennifer Barnett
Summary of reference entries provided
edelfiguratie
Kitty Brussaard

Discussion entries: 2





  

Answers


10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -1
cameo part


Explanation:
Not very sure about this term, but I would go with the 'cameo' version as 'edel' indicates a higher value. A cameo part or appearance is usually taken by a famous actor or personality (sometimes playing themselves) who appears very briefly but long enough enough to be recognised by the viewers.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameo_appearance
Jennifer Barnett
France
Local time: 07:42
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Ellis Jongsma: Een cameo wordt gedaan door een bekend persoon. Bij edelfiguratie hoef je niet bekend te zijn.
48 mins
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
extras


Explanation:
Although I agreed with 'bit part', this seems a bit more neutral and less derogatory, somehow.

Bruce Gordon
United Kingdom
Local time: 06:42
Native speaker of: English
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +4
bit part


Explanation:
Het is inderdaad een kleine rol: handeling, dan wel regel(s) tekst. Iets meer dan enkel figureren, ofwel in beeld verschijnen.

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Note added at 13 uren (2009-01-20 11:22:40 GMT)
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Although I myself would prefer to say I was an 'edelfigurant' (nice word!) than that I had a bit part, I think you do have to make a distinction from just being an extra, which would be 'figurant'. Walk-on seems to be somewhat the same as bit part, but for some reason I associate it more with the theatre. In the sentence given you could certainly go with 'actors for the supporting roles'.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bit_part
    Reference: http://www.commercialcasting.nl/disclaimer.htm
DJ Raats
Netherlands
Local time: 07:42
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Iedereen van harte bedankt voor het meedenken!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Bedankt, DJ. Dit lijkt me inderdaad de juiste vertaling. Cameo slaat op een beroemd personage, en "extra" is een figurant zonder zinnetjes of acties. Thanks!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Bruce Gordon
7 hrs
  -> dank!
agree  Mirjam Bonne-Nollen
8 hrs
  -> dank!
agree  Kitty Brussaard: The wikipedia definition for 'bit part' indeed seems to cover what is described as 'edelfiguratie' in the second link.
21 hrs
  -> dank je
agree  Emma Rault (X)
1 day 5 hrs
  -> dank je
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Reference comments


13 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: edelfiguratie

Reference information:
Hierbij een toelichting op het onderscheid tussen 'figuratie' en 'edelfiguratie'. Bij 'edelfiguratie' is er blijkbaar sprake van het verrichten van een handeling (verbaal of fysiek) door de (edel)figurant.

Edelfiguratie is iets meer dan figuratie. Hier wordt een handeling gepleegd, soms een regel tekst gezegd. Een handeling kan zijn: iets uit een lade pakken terwijl je in een shot met de acteurs bent. Het kan zijn dat je langsloopt en de acteur goeie dag zegt terwijl je beiden in beeld bent of langs fietsen in een drukke straat.
http://www.commercialcasting.nl/disclaimer.htm

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Note added at 27 mins (2009-01-19 22:18:11 GMT)
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Walk On
A step up from a supporting artiste, someone the viewer is more likely to identify as an individual, who may have a few words to say.
http://www.castingcollective.co.uk/artistes-area/guide/termi...

Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Tina Vonhof (X): I don't know anything about this topic but your references explain it very clearly.
18 hrs
  -> Thanks Tina!
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