doorslaan

11:05 May 9, 2011 

My friend has confirmed that 'doorslaan' does indeed mean driving the nail into the soft tissue of the hoof....Thanks again!

07:05 May 7, 2011 

I know someone who has had horses for a long time, will try and contact her to find out whether 'doorslaan' means what we think it means. Thank you all very much for your time and effort!

22:31 May 6, 2011 

To be honest, this is not what I expected, but this interpretation of 'doorslaan' fits perfectly in with the way they make these holes for the nails: you can no longer hammer the nails through the hard tissue into the soft tissue. The nails can only go in the right direction, will only pass through hard tissue

I mean by 'the way they make these holes': Een perfecte afwerking wordt bereikt met een nauwkeurig nagelgat, correcte nagelhoek en de juiste nagelhoek

21:49 May 6, 2011 

That's what I'm thinking now Barend

21:37 May 6, 2011 

I can follow what you are saying there, Dave.
What we need to know in order to be sure this line of thought is correct, is that 'doorslaan' is a word used to indicate that the nail took the wrong direction
that is, passed from hard tissue into soft tissue

21:31 May 6, 2011 

On reflection Katja, I think you're probably looking for "misdriven nails become a thing of the past" or something similar. "doorslaan" would therefore literally mean "hammering through" (the hoof)" resulting in "quicking". Doorslaan doesn't appear to be a hoof injury as such, but it can be the cause.

21:28 May 6, 2011 

Katja, we hebben het hier toch over hoefijzers?

Dit is alles wat de link van Bert heeft te zeggen over 'doorslaan':

doorslaan/springen voorbeen iets vroeger vooruit gezet dan bijhorend achterbeen = fase uit galop
à niet toegestaan in wedstrijd

wat heeft dat met hoefijzers te maken?

ik ging ervan uit dat op de plaats van "*******" het soort hoefijzer wordt genoemd

ik vat het zo op dat de gaten (waar de nagels doorheen worden geslagen) zodanig worden gemaakt dat de nagels bij het vastslaan precies goed lopen

waar gaat het fout?

dat de nagels precies goed lopen en daardoor geen levend vlees raken, waarbij levend vlees raken, doorslaan wordt genoemd?

Ik zie dat niet terug in de link van Bert

21:01 May 6, 2011 

uses a shoe that is too small, or has not fitted the shoe to the shape of the horse's hoof. Occasionally, manufacturing defects in nails or shoes may also cause a misdriven nail that quicks a horse.

21:00 May 6, 2011 

Shoeing mistakes
Mistakes are sometimes made by even a skilled farrier, especially if the horse does not stand still. This may sometimes result in a nail coming too close to the sensitive part of the hoof (putting pressure on it), or a nail that is driven slightly into the sensitive hoof, called "quicking" or nail pricking. This occurs when a nail penetrates the wall and hits the sensitive internal structures of the foot. Quicking results in bleeding and pain and the horse may show signs of lameness or may become lame in following days. Whenever it happens, the farrier must remove the offending nail. Usually a horse that is quicked will react immediately, though some cases where the nail is close to sensitive structures may not cause immediate problems. These mistakes are made occasionally by anyone who shoes horses, and in most cases is not an indication that the farrier is unskilled. It happens most commonly when horses move around while being shod, but also may occur if the hoof wall is particularly thin (common in Thoroughbreds), or if the hoof wall is brittle or damaged. It may also occur with an inexperienced or unskilled horseshoer who misdrives a nail,

20:59 May 6, 2011 

I've read everyones input with interest. As Dave was saying context is everything but sadly the sentence above is all there is. I think Bert is right in saying 'quicking' is the phenomenon intended. The wikipedia page on horseshoe contains the following paragraph.

20:49 May 6, 2011 

I think Bert could be right. I assumed that "doorslaan" referred to the punching of holes and it does, but perhaps not in the horseshoe, but in the horse's hoof. As I mentioned earlier, if the nails don't enter at the correct angle, it can cause the horse severe pain - "quicking". I suppose we could compare it to cutting a finger nail to the quick - how painful is that? I apologise if I've misled, but it seemed so obvious at the time - as usual, context is everything.

20:10 May 6, 2011 

Dave, perhaps quicking is the phenomenon intended here with doorslaan. See the link.

20:05 May 6, 2011 

Het heeft niets te maken met gaten ponsen oid.
Nog geen goeie vertaling gevonden. Zie linl: http://diergeneeskundigestudentenraad.be/samenvattingen/ba1/...

12:43 May 6, 2011 

Historically, holes have never been drilled in horseshoes. Holes have always been "punched" using a pointed tool and a hammer. It sounds like the asker's client has devised a drilling method for making these holes at the correct nailing angle which is why "hole punching is a thing of the past". The holes in a horseshoe are always angled so that the nails are guided to the outer edge of the hoof to avoid what farriers call "quicking" - damaging the horses nerve endings in the hoof causing lameness.

12:25 May 6, 2011 

als eerste aanzet is deze link misschien nuttig
ik denk dat je bij doorslaan een niet volledig voorgevormd gat hebt en nog materiaal eruit moet slaan, een soort ponsen

http://books.google.nl/books?id=MGHgnG0IS-4C&pg=PA1879&lpg=P...