herinneringsspoor

English translation: memory trace

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Dutch term or phrase:herinneringsspoor
English translation:memory trace
Entered by: joeykok

13:38 Apr 13, 2010
Dutch to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Philosophy / Freud
Dutch term or phrase: herinneringsspoor
I am busy translating a piece on Freud's theory of hysteria, and my problem word appears in the following sentence:

"Waar Freud niet meer in gelooft, is in zijn theoretische stelling dat de hysterie en de dwangneurose enkel kunnen veroorzaakt zijn door het herinneringsspoor van een seksueel trauma in de kindertijd."

I understand what is meant (trail of memory), but a preliminary search on the net revealed "herinneringsspoor" to be a much-used term, not only in philosphy. I'd like to know if there is an "official" translation in English.
joeykok
Local time: 07:36
memory trace
Explanation:
Not much time to do an internet search, sorry. But I'm pretty sure.

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Note added at 20 mins (2010-04-13 13:58:26 GMT)
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Here's a link to Google Books with the term: http://www.google.be/#hl=nl&tbo=p&tbs=bks:1&q=freud trauma "... Have to go!

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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-04-13 20:18:25 GMT)
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"Memory trace" occurs in 6 different books of the Complete Works (electronic version). There's a version of the Interpretation of Dreams on Google books:
http://books.google.be/books?id=-pB1UoFnjZcC&printsec=frontc...

Also check this dictionary:
http://books.google.be/books?id=3IUKHBrARx0C&pg=PA157&lpg=PA... (I hope this works ...)

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Cleartrans
Belgium
Local time: 06:36
Grading comment
Thanks - this was the one I went with. This is also used in the official Strachey translation of Freud's works.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2unconscious memories (repressed)
Carolyn Gille
4 +1memory trace
Cleartrans
4memory imprint
Barend van Zadelhoff
3mnemic trace/memory trace
Textpertise
Summary of reference entries provided
Repressed memory
Lianne van de Ven

Discussion entries: 2





  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
unconscious memories (repressed)


Explanation:
An alternative account that has come to the fore in recent Freud scholarship emphasizes that the theory as posited by Freud was that hysteria and obsessional neurosis result from unconscious memories of sexual abuse in infancy

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Note added at 8 mins (2010-04-13 13:46:47 GMT)
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www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freud's_seduction_theory

Example sentence(s):
  • His obsessional neurosis result from unconscious memories of sexual abuse in infancy.
Carolyn Gille
Local time: 06:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tina Vonhof (X): I would rather use 'repressed memories'.
7 mins
  -> thank you (I think you're right, it's the term most people would recognize).

disagree  Lianne van de Ven: I am changing my mind and agree with Christoph's explanation (sorry :-)
3 hrs
  -> thank you Lianne

agree  Verginia Ophof
4 hrs
  -> Thank you Verginia

agree  Chris Hopley: yes, and with Tina + Lianne
6 hrs
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
mnemic trace/memory trace


Explanation:
In haste. Please see.

http://www.answers.com/topic/mnemic-trace-memory-trace

Hope this helps.

Textpertise
United Kingdom
Local time: 05:36
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
memory imprint


Explanation:
imprint - afdruk, indruk, spoor, stempel

Three symptom clusters are associated with PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder):

1. Re-experiencing symptoms

Distressing images, unwanted memories, nightmares or flashbacks of the trauma that cause distress and physical symptoms such as palpitations, shortness of breath and other panic symptoms. Because the *memory imprint* has not been processed by the brain in the usual way the flashbacks are very vivid and realistic and there is a frightening and uncanny sense of going through the trauma all over again.


Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 06:36
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
memory trace


Explanation:
Not much time to do an internet search, sorry. But I'm pretty sure.

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Note added at 20 mins (2010-04-13 13:58:26 GMT)
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Here's a link to Google Books with the term: http://www.google.be/#hl=nl&tbo=p&tbs=bks:1&q=freud trauma "... Have to go!

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Note added at 6 hrs (2010-04-13 20:18:25 GMT)
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"Memory trace" occurs in 6 different books of the Complete Works (electronic version). There's a version of the Interpretation of Dreams on Google books:
http://books.google.be/books?id=-pB1UoFnjZcC&printsec=frontc...

Also check this dictionary:
http://books.google.be/books?id=3IUKHBrARx0C&pg=PA157&lpg=PA... (I hope this works ...)



Cleartrans
Belgium
Local time: 06:36
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch, Native in FlemishFlemish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Thanks - this was the one I went with. This is also used in the official Strachey translation of Freud's works.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Carolyn Gille: Also good: here's a ref: http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G2-3435300909.html
1 min

agree  Lianne van de Ven: This is a more specific term, and I agree with your explanation in the discussion!
11 hrs
  -> Thanks Lianne.
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Reference comments


3 hrs
Reference: Repressed memory

Reference information:
According to the theory, a repressed memory of an early childhood sexual abuse or molestation experience was the essential precondition for hysterical or obsessional symptoms, with the addition of an active sexual experience up to the age of eight for the latter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freud's_seduction_theory

Lianne van de Ven
United States
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 8
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