plat

10:37 Jul 26, 2013
Dutch to English translations [Non-PRO]
Marketing - Tourism & Travel
Dutch term or phrase: plat
Anyone have any clue what kind of imagery or tone these copywriters are going for with the word "plat" in the below context:

"Playa d'en Bossa is bezaaid met allerlei barren en restaurants variërend van hip tot plat. ...Ben je wel opzoek naar een feestje overdag? Dan moet je naar Bora Bora bar (wel plat) , deze ligt ongeveer in het midden van het strand."

Source: http://www.huishurenibiza.nl/op-ibiza/stranden/playa-den-bos...

Bora Bora bar is anything but country, plain, flat, boring, gross, vulgar, or closed / shut-down, or dead... so, I'm not getting their drift on this one. Can't tell if they are being pejorative, either, given that they apparently are trying to appeal to those looking for peace and quiet, without a host of distraction from overrun beach bars pumping out decibel upon decibel of house music.

My only guess, in light of that, is "overrun" (i.e. running over something, thereby "flattening" it), which would reflect how crowded this beach bar is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfBqLGEPR8I

Any ideas?
Bryan Crumpler
United States
Local time: 22:03


Summary of answers provided
4dive
philgoddard
4not so sophisticated/racy
Natasha Ziada (X)


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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
dive


Explanation:
See the discussion entries for an explanation of the Dutch word's connotations.

Dive is used just as often as a compliment as an insult. My reference is a list of dives in my home town. I've been to several of them, and they're just laid-back, cheap, down-home, friendly and unpretentious.

If you needed to make it clear that this bar is being recommended rather than warned against, you could say "a dive, in the best possible sense of the word".

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-07-26 14:59:18 GMT)
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And it's obviously not pejorative in this context, because they're telling you to go there.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-07-26 15:02:39 GMT)
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Dive
1. A ghettoified hole in the wall bar where the poor and downtrodden alcoholics of America go to drink discounted mini-pitchers and listen to tired David Alan Coe songs.
2. A run-down, cheap, unclean restaurant or hotel.
That McDonalds is such a dive!
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=dive


    Reference: http://www.yelp.com/search?find_desc=Best+Dive+Bars&find_loc...
philgoddard
United States
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Natasha Ziada (X): Not sure how well 'dive' works in combination with Ibiza, clubs and scantily-clad dancers. Reminds me more of local, dark, cosy, whisky/beer drinking bar-fly kind of pubs :)
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
not so sophisticated/racy


Explanation:
I tried googling Bora Bora Ibiza (images) and the amount of flesh shown definitely qualifies as plat (see link)! Terms that come to mind: racy, flashy, gaudy.

In the first instance (van hip tot plat), where the author is placing bars on a scale from (hip to plat) I would suggest something along these lines: (from sophisticated/fancy/hip to much less so) to retain the comparative value.

In the second instance (wel plat) I would go for a description: (a bit on the racy side) or (for those who don't mind a bit of noise and raciness)


    https://www.google.com.au/search?q=bora+bora+ibiza&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EfryUaS_M8PIkgWBroGoAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1639&bih=817
Natasha Ziada (X)
Australia
Local time: 12:03
Works in field
Native speaker of: Dutch
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