Medium Average

10:10 Apr 2, 2020 

As I said before, in the phrase "medium average of faculty entrepreneurship," the word "average is a noun," but in these other expressions (below), the word average is a modifier. Moreover, I don't have the exact context, so please take my suggestions with a grain of salt:

high outcome نتيجة عالية
high average outcome نتيجة معدلة عالية
medium outcome نتيجة متوسطة
medium average outcome? نتيجة معدلة متوسطة

09:50 Apr 2, 2020 

Okay, if we translate average into معدل, how to differentiate, in terms of translation, between a "high outcome" and a "high average outcome", or a "medium outcome" and a "medium average" outcome?

09:41 Apr 2, 2020 

Statisticians use technical terms to refer to specific values in their calculations: "mean," "median," and "mode." Each one of these is a type of average. The word "average" is a broad concept that serves our simple needs that do not require complicated calculations. To learn more about these concepts, take a look here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average

For the word "average," should we use معدل or متوسط?

Both are used in academic and colloquial discourse. In this article, the word معدل is used:

https://mawdoo3.com/كيف_يتم_حساب_المعدل

On this page, however, the word متوسط is used:

https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/متوسط_(إحصاء)

Do I have a preference? There are two things that I do not like about the word متوسط:

1. It can be confused with the adjective متوسط ("medium").
2. It gives the impression that the average is somehow in the middle of the spread of values being averaged.

It is interesting to note that the word average is derived from the Arabic word عوار. To learn more, look here:

https://www.etymonline.com/word/average

08:49 Apr 2, 2020 

في علم الإحصاء هناك فرق طفيف المعدل والمتوسط ،فلمعدل هي الكلمة الأشمل، ولكن طبقًا لترجمات مصطلحات في علوم أخرى اقتصادية ومالية، وكذإحصائية يوجد ترجمة لكلمة Average كمتوسط، مثل ترجمة weighted average
كمتوسط مرجح أو متوسط موزون ، مرفق المراجع
https://ar.glosbe.com/en/ar/weighted average
https://books.google.com.eg/books?id=f4deDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA306&l...
https://www.dictionary.com/e/average-vs-mean-vs-median-vs-mo...

05:38 Apr 2, 2020 

To me, معدل متوسط معتدل sounds like moderate medium average.

05:28 Apr 2, 2020 

Okay. How does a translation like معدل متوسط معتدل sound to you?

04:51 Apr 2, 2020 

نتجة معدلة بقيمة متوسطة
نتيجة معدلة ذات قيمة متوسطة
نتيجة معدلة متوسطة القيمة

If you don't feel comfortable introducing the word قيمة, you can simply say

نتيجة معدلة متوسطة

04:44 Apr 2, 2020 

Sorry for the typo. A medium value of an average outcome*

04:43 Apr 2, 2020 

@ Fuad Yahya
Thank you for your input.
Like I said, it is like a medium alue of an average outcome. So, I would like your opinion on how would you translate a "medium average outcom"?

04:29 Apr 2, 2020 

I would like to address the question you posted on Yosra Montasser's answer.

In "medium average," the word "average" is a noun. it refers to the average (whose value is medium) of all faculty entrepreneurship, etc. reported by the surveyed universities. The correct translation is مُعدَّل because that is a value reached by averaging out many different values. It would be imprecise to simply call it نسـبة just because it is a percentage. The modifier is irrelevant. You can have a low average مُعدَّل منخفض, medium average مُعدَّل مُتوسِّط or a high average مُعدَّل عال.

In "average outcome," the word "average" is a modifier of "outcome." I don't know how you wish to translate "outcome" and it would be risky for me to try without context, but, prima facie, I would translate it as نتيجة or حصيلة. I would therefore translate "average outcome" in two ways, depending what it means:

I would translate it to النتيجة المعدَّلة or مُعدَّل النتائج, if it means an outcome that has been averaged based on various values.

If, on the other hand, "average outcome" means a "middling outcome," I would translate it to نتيجة متوسطة. Likewise, I would translate "high outcome" to نتيجة عالية.