gymnastics kip

Dutch translation: alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up

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English term or phrase:performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip
Dutch translation:alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up
Entered by: Barend van Zadelhoff

14:26 Sep 17, 2015
English to Dutch translations [PRO]
Sports / Fitness / Recreation
English term or phrase: gymnastics kip
An athlete repeats a benchmark workout composed of pull-ups and thrusters and gets the same time on both attempts.
Which modification creates the GREATEST increase in average power output?
Performing all pull-ups as chest-to-bar pull-ups.
Performing all pull-ups unbroken.
Performing all pull-ups with a butterfly kip.
Performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip.

Bedankt!
Jorim De Clercq
Ecuador
Local time: 07:02
kip op rekstok
Explanation:

Toestel/opstelling: rekstok

Omschrijving: Vanuit hangende houding naar steunende houding komen door in voorzwaai op het verste punt in te hoeken en in de terugzwaai actief de heupen te strekken.

http://www.mannaweb.net/content.php?lang=nl&m=menu_manna&c=e...


In artistic gymnastics, a kip is a basic skill on the women's uneven bars. It is also performed on the men's high bar, parallel bars and still rings.

The kip is an important skill that is used as both a mount and an element or connecting skill in a bar routine. The kip allows the gymnast to swing below the bar to arrive in a front support on the bar. From the front support, the gymnast may then perform any number of skills. The glide kip is the most commonly used mount on the women's uneven bars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_(artistic_gymnastics)

Gepubliceerd op 10 mei 2012


The gymnastics kip is a fundamental skill that enables you to get on top of a bar. Gymnastics kips rely more on technique and coordination than muscle ups. When the kip is mastered, it can be done with less energy than a muscle up making it an essential skill for efficiency purposes in parkour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB9thWjDux4


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Kip op rekstok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8PwqKdriaM

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@Jorim, gebruik bij gebruik van "gymnastics kip" in de betekenis die Kitty aangeeft, die meer past binnen het hele crossfitness gebeuren, het volgende:

Performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip.

-->

Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up

Dus:

Welke modificatie ....?

Performing all pull-ups with a butterfly kip.
Performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip.

-->

Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als butterfly pull-up
Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up

'kipping pull-up' wordt ook in het Nederlands gebruikt: zie antwoord bij butterfly pull-up

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The second rule is being specific. The example Greg gave was the pull-up. Many, many people have the “I want to get one pull-up” goal. Seems like a great goal on the surface, because everyone knows what a pull-up is, right?
One pull-up is one deadhang pull-up with no kip.
Or it’s a pull-up with a gymnastics kip.
Or a pull-up with a butterfly kip.

Maybe it’s a jumping pull-up. Or a banded pull-up with a light band. See where I’m going here? There are several kinds of pull-ups that can be done, so you need to be specific. If you’re not specific, you’ll never know if you’ve reached your goal or not.

Say your goal is to get five pull-ups. You’ve just read the paragraph above and you realize you have to be more specific.
So now your goal is to get five gymnastics kipping pull-ups.
Next specification: are all five of those in a row, unbroken, or just five in one day?
Five consecutive gymnastics kipping pull-ups, you say? That’s better. But how do you want to do those pull-ups? Do you want to get that chin over the bar any ugly way possible, or do you want that movement to be smooth?
Now you’re getting it. So how about five smooth, consecutive gymnastics kipping pull-ups?

Now that’s a goal.

http://tinyurl.com/pgofzlz

Hier worden deze begrippen door elkaar gebruikt:

pull-up with a gymnastics kip = gymnastics kipping pull-ups

Beter de betekenis van Kitty aan te houden.


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Definition of a kipping pull-up

A kipping pull-up builds on the basic strength needed to perform a strict pull-up:


The kipping pull-up is a little more sophisticated than the deadhang pull-up. Done correctly, it involves a hip snap that radiates up the spine and into the arms, effectively lifting the body with minimal upper body pulling –John Sifferman

Tidbit: (dit verklaart mogelijk de term 'gymnastics' in dit CrossFit verband)

Gymnastics — that is, bodyweight movement in general — is near the base of the CrossFit pyramid, just above metabolic conditioning.

Within the context of CrossFit, Greg Glassman advocates for the importance of the kipping pull-up:


Kipping is whole-body, athletic, and demands coordination and agility. It is plyometric, requires flexibility of the shoulders, allows for rapid cycle time, and in totality represents an essential, unique, and powerful core to extremity motor recruitment pattern.

Improving Your Kipping Pull-up

When in doubt, check a gymnast – or a gymnastics coach – out for tips on how to perform kipping pull-ups safely and more efficiently. As with any gymnastics movement, doing kipping pull-ups well requires a combination of coordination and strength (thus the importance of developing foundational strength through the strict pull-up).

•Jeff Tucker presents an excellent instructional video on kipping pull-ups. He teaches the kipping pull-up from “a gymnastics purist” perspective, “without the introduction of angles created by a violent hip drive.” Instead, he teaches initiating and controlling the momentum of the kip by using the upper body.

https://youtu.be/FHoKDa8dKI4

http://www.tabatatimes.com/improving-your-pull-ups/

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Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 14:02
Grading comment
Bedankt!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2kip op rekstok
Barend van Zadelhoff
Summary of reference entries provided
kipping pull-up
Kitty Brussaard

Discussion entries: 8





  

Answers


5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
kip op rekstok


Explanation:

Toestel/opstelling: rekstok

Omschrijving: Vanuit hangende houding naar steunende houding komen door in voorzwaai op het verste punt in te hoeken en in de terugzwaai actief de heupen te strekken.

http://www.mannaweb.net/content.php?lang=nl&m=menu_manna&c=e...


In artistic gymnastics, a kip is a basic skill on the women's uneven bars. It is also performed on the men's high bar, parallel bars and still rings.

The kip is an important skill that is used as both a mount and an element or connecting skill in a bar routine. The kip allows the gymnast to swing below the bar to arrive in a front support on the bar. From the front support, the gymnast may then perform any number of skills. The glide kip is the most commonly used mount on the women's uneven bars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kip_(artistic_gymnastics)

Gepubliceerd op 10 mei 2012


The gymnastics kip is a fundamental skill that enables you to get on top of a bar. Gymnastics kips rely more on technique and coordination than muscle ups. When the kip is mastered, it can be done with less energy than a muscle up making it an essential skill for efficiency purposes in parkour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB9thWjDux4


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Note added at 6 hrs (2015-09-17 20:34:41 GMT)
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Kip op rekstok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8PwqKdriaM

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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2015-09-19 17:48:19 GMT)
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@Jorim, gebruik bij gebruik van "gymnastics kip" in de betekenis die Kitty aangeeft, die meer past binnen het hele crossfitness gebeuren, het volgende:

Performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip.

-->

Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up

Dus:

Welke modificatie ....?

Performing all pull-ups with a butterfly kip.
Performing all pull-ups with a gymnastics kip.

-->

Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als butterfly pull-up
Alle pull-ups uitvoeren als kipping pull-up

'kipping pull-up' wordt ook in het Nederlands gebruikt: zie antwoord bij butterfly pull-up

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Note added at 2 days3 hrs (2015-09-19 18:10:33 GMT)
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The second rule is being specific. The example Greg gave was the pull-up. Many, many people have the “I want to get one pull-up” goal. Seems like a great goal on the surface, because everyone knows what a pull-up is, right?
One pull-up is one deadhang pull-up with no kip.
Or it’s a pull-up with a gymnastics kip.
Or a pull-up with a butterfly kip.

Maybe it’s a jumping pull-up. Or a banded pull-up with a light band. See where I’m going here? There are several kinds of pull-ups that can be done, so you need to be specific. If you’re not specific, you’ll never know if you’ve reached your goal or not.

Say your goal is to get five pull-ups. You’ve just read the paragraph above and you realize you have to be more specific.
So now your goal is to get five gymnastics kipping pull-ups.
Next specification: are all five of those in a row, unbroken, or just five in one day?
Five consecutive gymnastics kipping pull-ups, you say? That’s better. But how do you want to do those pull-ups? Do you want to get that chin over the bar any ugly way possible, or do you want that movement to be smooth?
Now you’re getting it. So how about five smooth, consecutive gymnastics kipping pull-ups?

Now that’s a goal.

http://tinyurl.com/pgofzlz

Hier worden deze begrippen door elkaar gebruikt:

pull-up with a gymnastics kip = gymnastics kipping pull-ups

Beter de betekenis van Kitty aan te houden.


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Note added at 2 days4 hrs (2015-09-19 18:42:49 GMT)
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Definition of a kipping pull-up

A kipping pull-up builds on the basic strength needed to perform a strict pull-up:


The kipping pull-up is a little more sophisticated than the deadhang pull-up. Done correctly, it involves a hip snap that radiates up the spine and into the arms, effectively lifting the body with minimal upper body pulling –John Sifferman

Tidbit: (dit verklaart mogelijk de term 'gymnastics' in dit CrossFit verband)

Gymnastics — that is, bodyweight movement in general — is near the base of the CrossFit pyramid, just above metabolic conditioning.

Within the context of CrossFit, Greg Glassman advocates for the importance of the kipping pull-up:


Kipping is whole-body, athletic, and demands coordination and agility. It is plyometric, requires flexibility of the shoulders, allows for rapid cycle time, and in totality represents an essential, unique, and powerful core to extremity motor recruitment pattern.

Improving Your Kipping Pull-up

When in doubt, check a gymnast – or a gymnastics coach – out for tips on how to perform kipping pull-ups safely and more efficiently. As with any gymnastics movement, doing kipping pull-ups well requires a combination of coordination and strength (thus the importance of developing foundational strength through the strict pull-up).

•Jeff Tucker presents an excellent instructional video on kipping pull-ups. He teaches the kipping pull-up from “a gymnastics purist” perspective, “without the introduction of angles created by a violent hip drive.” Instead, he teaches initiating and controlling the momentum of the kip by using the upper body.

https://youtu.be/FHoKDa8dKI4

http://www.tabatatimes.com/improving-your-pull-ups/



Barend van Zadelhoff
Netherlands
Local time: 14:02
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
PRO pts in category: 44
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Bedankt!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Philine Veldhuijsen: Of de 'streksteun' of 'strekstand' die het uitgangspunt is bij turnen?
10 hrs
  -> De eindpositie bij de kip is streksteun maar de kip is een techniek om in streksteun terecht te komen. Zie mijn mannawebnet hierboven, daar kun je ook streksteun vinden.//Bekijk ook die meid in de Engelse YouTube, een genot voor het oog. :-)

agree  Kitty Brussaard: Vooral in de context van turnen. Of kipping pull-up, analoog aan butterfly pull-up (zie andere vraag) en strict pull-up. In crossfitness zijn dit iig de drie soorten pull-ups die worden onderscheiden. Zie http://tinyurl.com/qjxz9an.
1 day 17 hrs
  -> Ik denk dat er een verschil is tussen een 'kipping pull-up' en een 'pull-up with a gymnastics kip'. Zie weer het meisje uit ref van de Engelse YouTube hierboven. In feite is een 'kip op rekstok' ook/tevens een pull-up.
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Reference comments


2 days 1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: kipping pull-up

Reference information:
The kipping pull-up incorporates the gymnastics kip and the pull-up. The required range of motion for this exercise is chin over bar at the top of the pull-up and elbows coming to full extension at the bottom of the pull-up. This pull-up can be scaled with bands.
http://crossfitroots.com/6075/pull-up-implies-a-kipping-pull...

Pull-ups
A major fitness milestone for some, just another bodyweight movement for others.
Either way, a hotly debated topic in internetland for sure. Particularly in recent years, pull-ups have come to the forefront of CrossFit hate because of the gymnastics kip we often utilize. “Cheating,” it’s called.
http://crossfitamplify.com/2014/06/23/pull-ups/

But see also:

A kipping pullup is a pullup with a variation on the gymnastics kip.

The pullup kip differs greatly from the gymnastics kip in that the pullup kip you lead with your shoulders as much as your hips, while you throw your feet behind you. The gymnastics kip leads with the hips and feet. Both have a piking motion where you throw your feet up and forward while snapping your hips back.
http://www.losestubbornfat.com/what_is_a_kippi/

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Again, the kipping pull up is a legitimate variant of the pull up especially within the context of CrossFit where the goal is to achieve a task as quickly and as efficiently as possible. The gymnastic kip is only one version of the kip. The butterfly kip is a more advanced version that is pretty much a CrossFit signature movement and not even found in the sport of gymnastics.
http://crossfitstronghold.com/the-kipping-pull-up-is-a-pull-...

Today, we examine an often-used (and often-misunderstood) movement: the kipping pull-up:

WHAT IS A KIPPING PULL-UP?

The kipping pull-up is a movement that begins in a hang from the pull-up bar and ends with your chin above the pull-up bar. The kipping pull-up is different from the strict pull-up because you use horizontal momentum generated by a swing on the bar in order to help you get over the bar.
(...)
The kipping pull-up in this video is employing a style of kipping commonly known as the “gymnastic kip.” This is the style of kipping that we use at CrossFit Manatee. There are other ways of kipping, including one known as the “butterfly kip,” but we believe that the gymnastic kip is the safest and most efficient kip to use in training. (For more info on gymnastic and butterfly kips, check out this blog post from last May.)
http://crossfitmanatee.com/11-08-13-friday-kipping-pull-ups-...

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@Barend: zie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_d51HnnMdg. In dit Nederlandstalige instructiefilmpje heeft men het achtereenvolgens over:

- de (beweging van de) kip als zodanig (zonder optrekken dus)
- de kip in combinatie met optrekken >> kipping pull-up genoemd
- het uitvoeren van meerdere kipping pull-ups achter elkaar >> butterfly kip genoemd

Kitty Brussaard
Netherlands
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Barend van Zadelhoff: Ik had je ref nog niet gezien. 'gymnastics kip' schijnt ook in deze betekenis te kunnen worden gebruikt: http://tinyurl.com/pgofzlz Het zou het 'vreemde-eend-in-de-bijt' aspect kunnen oplossen, wat mij ook was opgevallen./See added notes/See added notes.
1 hr
  -> Mijn laatstgenoemde links roepen bij mij weer enige twijfel op.... De 'gymnastics kip' en de 'butterfly kip' lijken twee specifieke en verschillende vormen van de 'kipping pull-up' (verzamelnaam). Toch maar eens die buurman raadplegen, zonder sigaret :-)
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