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"unknown unknown"

10:58 Apr 7, 2021
English to French translations [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Computers (general)
English term or phrase: "unknown unknown"
Hello, I am trying to find a translation for this expression. The exact sentence is how damaging these ‘unknown unknown’ threats can be.
Thanks for the help
ipsum
United Kingdom


Summary of answers provided
4 +1de type "inconnu inconnu"
Cyril Tollari
4 +1des meanaces non identifiées
Francois Boye
4totalement inconnues
Samuel Clarisse
4(erreur) inconnue (host) inconnu
MassimoA


  

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4 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
totalement inconnues


Explanation:
Ou "nouvelles menaces totalement inconnues"

Samuel Clarisse
France
Local time: 21:40
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 20
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
(erreur) inconnue (host) inconnu


Explanation:
Dans le domaine informatique, je crois que nous parlons d'une erreur non identifiée d'un serveur hôte (host) inconnu.

MassimoA
Italy
Local time: 21:40
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
de type "inconnu inconnu"


Explanation:
Menaces de type "inconnu inconnu"

Catching all Threats — Known, Unknown, and Unknown Unknown — Before They Can Harm You
https://medium.com/@JoeCISO/catching-all-threats-known-unkno...

Donal Rumsfeld et l'inconnu inconnu
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_known_knowns

Cyril Tollari
France
Local time: 21:40
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Saeed Najmi
1 hr
  -> merci
neutral  Francois Boye: Cette expression vient d'un ancien ministre de la défense des Etats Unis. Ce qu'il a voulu dire est qu'il ya des choses dont one ne peut rien dire, parce qu'elles ne sont pas identifiées.
8 hrs
  -> Pour moi, votre traduction n'est pas une traduction mais une tentative d'explication de l'expression
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
"unknown unknown" threats
des meanaces non identifiées


Explanation:

An unknown unknown is unidentified information. An individual or organization may realize that such information exists and is relevant to them but its specifics are completely outside of their scope of awareness. The term is one of four categories of information, which also includes known knowns, unknown knowns and known unknowns.

Unknown unknowns are pertinent to many areas of information technology, including big data, text mining, project management, software design and cybersecurity. In the context of big data, for example, an unknown unknown may represent an unidentified asset. Many organizations access and store huge volumes of unstructured data without much knowledge of its potential value. However, big data analytics software may identify patterns and connections among data that yield useful information.

In project management and security, on the other hand, unknown unknowns are more often spoken of as unidentified risks. Nevertheless, there is benefit in understanding that there may be completely unpredictable events and outcomes that could have a significant effect on an organization, and reserving some contingency resources to respond to such situations.

Current discussion about unknown unknowns and its variations arose from then-United States Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld’s 2002 comment at a Defence Department briefing:

“There are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we do not know we don't know.”

Rumsfeld was differentiating categories of knowledge in a military context. The comment was generally considered nonsensical and public response was derisive. Since then, however, the terms have been elaborated upon and applied in business, the sciences and other areas of endeavor.

https://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/unknown-unknown

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Note added at 7 hrs (2021-04-07 18:54:17 GMT)
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Erratum: MENACES instead of meanaces

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 15:40
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Dominique Stiver: bien sûr avec "menaces".
16 hrs
neutral  Cyril Tollari: Et si dans le texte à traduire il y avait la phrase "unknown unknown threats are unidentified threats", que feriez-vous ? "Les menaces non identifiées sont des menaces non identifiées..." ne marche pas pour cette raison
18 hrs
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