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worthy poor

French translation: les pauvres méritants

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English term or phrase:worthy poor
French translation:les pauvres méritants
Entered by: B. Bruzon

16:17 Apr 6, 2006
English to French translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History
English term or phrase: worthy poor
Bonjour,

Dans le passage suivant, comment traduiriez-vous "worthy poor" ?

"Disabled people were rejected. Disabled people were viewed as worthy poor, as opposed to ‘work shy’ unworthy poor and given Poor Law Relief."

Merci à l'avance pour vos idées.
B. Bruzon
Local time: 03:16
les pauvres méritants
Explanation:
Ref: le petit Robert
Selected response from:

Debbie Tacium Ladry
Local time: 21:16
Grading comment
"Méritant" et "méritoire" me plaisent tout autant.
Merci à tous !
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +9les pauvres méritants
Debbie Tacium Ladry
3 +1les pauvres méritoires
Jozef van Delft
3les pauvres honorables
Jozef van Delft


  

Answers


2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +9
les pauvres méritants


Explanation:
Ref: le petit Robert

Debbie Tacium Ladry
Local time: 21:16
Works in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
"Méritant" et "méritoire" me plaisent tout autant.
Merci à tous !

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sporran
2 mins
  -> Thank you sporran. :-)
agree  Anna Quail: http://www.cfcs.gov.on.ca/CFCS/fr/Celebrating75Years/Moment_... http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q="pauvres méritants"&b...
18 mins
  -> Thank you FrenchtoEnglish :-)
agree  JH Trads: excellente traduction!
26 mins
  -> Merci Hugo!
agree  Jocelyne S: La première chose qui m'est venue à l'esprit aussi.
28 mins
  -> Merci J S, moi aussi - mais j'ai dû la vérifier quand même...
agree  Jozef van Delft: vous avez raison. Vu la référence fournie par FrenchtoEnglish, le terme "pauvre méritant" est d'usage. "worthy" = "deserving" apparemment et non "honorable". "pauvre méritoire" est plus français
1 hr
  -> merci Jozef!
agree  LBMas: but now I want to know how the 1st sentence fits w/ what follows...they were rejected but received aid? :<
2 hrs
  -> a different type of aid...without the same stigma attached
agree  Alexandre Coutu: méritant ou méritoire
3 hrs
  -> merci Alexandre!
agree  Anne Girardeau
1 day 17 hrs
  -> merci Anne!
agree  Gat
1 day 19 hrs
  -> merci Gatraduction!
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10 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
les pauvres honorables


Explanation:
worthy dans le sens de "honorable". Ou les pauvres "honnêtes" par opposition aux autres pauvres de la phrase "work shy" timides face au travail, que j'interprète comme paresseux, profiteurs

Jozef van Delft
Spain
Local time: 03:16
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in FrenchFrench
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
les pauvres méritoires


Explanation:
Simplement comme variante plus correcte en français et également utilisée dans ce contexte. Je me rétracte de ma proposition antérieure qui n'avait pas tenu compte du contexte historique.

Voir la proposition de Debbie, qui était antérieure à la mienne

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Note added at 1 hr (2006-04-06 18:11:54 GMT)
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pour le contexte historique:

www.justice.gc.ca/fr/ps/rs/rep/2001/seamless/seamless_2.htm...

Jozef van Delft
Spain
Local time: 03:16
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  emiledgar
6 hrs
  -> Merci emiledgar :-)
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