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Fool's Choice

French translation: faux dilemme

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English term or phrase:Fool\'s Choice
French translation:faux dilemme
Entered by: Nathalie Coutelle

23:38 Jun 15, 2015
English to French translations [PRO]
Management
English term or phrase: Fool's Choice
In a guide about how to deal with difficult conversations :

The Fool’s Choice is believing that you have to choose between telling the truth and keeping a friend or colleague.
It’s being trapped in an either/or box. When we feel threatened our brains go into survival mode and our ability to think of options and alternatives decreases.
Nathalie Coutelle
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:26
faux dilemme
Explanation:

“fool's choice”: « faux dilemme »

False dilemma (or false dichotomy, false binary, black-and-white thinking, either–or fallacy, fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, fallacy of false choice, fallacy of the false alternative, fallacy of the excluded middle, etc.): informal fallacy that involves a situation in which only limited alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

- “Logically fallacious: the False Dilemma” http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallaci...
- “Logical fallacies: the False Choice” https://kestalusrealm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/logical-falla...

In French, “faux choix” is quite rare (logic's specialists) and/or confusing, rather unclear. Hence my proposal: “faux dilemme”; intuitively for anyone: “Oh, something is wrong in this choice/dilemma”, and almost readily understandable in the context of the present text i.e. with the explanations.

- "Le faux dilemme (...) est un raisonnement fallacieux qui consiste à présenter deux solutions à un problème donné comme si elles étaient les deux seules possibles, alors qu'en réalité il en existe d'autres." https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux_dilemme
- "Noir ou blanc, fausse alternative, faux dilemme" http://www.solitudes.fr/langues-de-bois/199-topoi-5-noir-ou-...
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erwan-l
France
Local time: 14:26
Grading comment
Merci Erwan!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +4faux dilemme
erwan-l
4 +1alternative illusoire
François Begon
4un choix de dupes
Francois Boye
4 -1Marché de dupes.
Juan Jacob
3choix simpliste
Daryo


  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
fool's choice
un choix de dupes


Explanation:
in line with Fool's bargain

Francois Boye
United States
Local time: 08:26
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 60
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
fool's choice
Marché de dupes.


Explanation:
Expression figée en français.

Entre autres : http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/francais-definition/marché d...

Juan Jacob
Mexico
Local time: 06:26
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish, Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Francois Boye: vous traduisez 'fool's bargain'
7 hrs
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4 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
fool's choice
faux dilemme


Explanation:

“fool's choice”: « faux dilemme »

False dilemma (or false dichotomy, false binary, black-and-white thinking, either–or fallacy, fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, fallacy of false choice, fallacy of the false alternative, fallacy of the excluded middle, etc.): informal fallacy that involves a situation in which only limited alternatives are considered, when in fact there is at least one additional option.

- “Logically fallacious: the False Dilemma” http://www.logicallyfallacious.com/index.php/logical-fallaci...
- “Logical fallacies: the False Choice” https://kestalusrealm.wordpress.com/2010/03/02/logical-falla...

In French, “faux choix” is quite rare (logic's specialists) and/or confusing, rather unclear. Hence my proposal: “faux dilemme”; intuitively for anyone: “Oh, something is wrong in this choice/dilemma”, and almost readily understandable in the context of the present text i.e. with the explanations.

- "Le faux dilemme (...) est un raisonnement fallacieux qui consiste à présenter deux solutions à un problème donné comme si elles étaient les deux seules possibles, alors qu'en réalité il en existe d'autres." https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faux_dilemme
- "Noir ou blanc, fausse alternative, faux dilemme" http://www.solitudes.fr/langues-de-bois/199-topoi-5-noir-ou-...

erwan-l
France
Local time: 14:26
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Merci Erwan!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  GILLES MEUNIER
9 mins
  -> Merci.
agree  mchd
1 hr
  -> Merci.
agree  Chakib Roula: sounds pretty native translation
4 hrs
  -> Thank you. As a matter of fact, I used it a few times as a management consultant.
neutral  François Begon: Dilemme est-il bien adapté ici ? Le dilemme suppose deux prémisses contradictoires conduisant à la même conclusion, qui alors s'impose.
8 hrs
  -> Non, la conclusion ne s'impose nullement, même chez Platon, dans votre "définition". Quant aux prémisses contraditoires, ce qui est en substance le cas ici, voir St-Thomas d'Aquin, Kant, etc. (logique vs. morale) et le langage courant depuis des siècles.
agree  Premium✍️
3 days 18 hrs
  -> Merci.
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
fool's choice
alternative illusoire


Explanation:
Le dilemme suppose deux prémisses contradictoires conduisant à la même conclusion.

François Begon
France
Local time: 14:26
Works in field
Native speaker of: French
PRO pts in category: 47

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Premium✍️: ou 'fausse alternative'. Par contre, un dilemme ne présuppose pas obligatoirement des prémisses ou des prémisses contradictoires... Je m'en tiens là pour la discussion philosophique... :-)
3 days 10 hrs
  -> Merci MultiPro
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21 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
fool's choice
choix simpliste


Explanation:
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 13:26
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 36
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