fiscal literalism

French translation: tribut littéraire

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English term or phrase:fiscal literalism
French translation:tribut littéraire
Entered by: Francis Marche

07:59 May 22, 2014
English to French translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature
English term or phrase: fiscal literalism
Le contexte, merci!

Čapek’s economic schema in R.U.R. (which involves a binary order of consuming bourgeoisie and producing robots) would fare somewhat better in Wells’s analysis, and Čapek and Wells were mutual admirers.
But ***fiscal literalism*** does little to explain why these works entered the cultural imaginary of their moment with such force.
Alcime Steiger
France
Local time: 19:46
tribu littéraire
Explanation:
Probablement le tribu littéraire qu'un auteur rend à un autre en rendant hommage à ses idées ou son style, ou démarche d'esprit, voire en les imitant, etc.

H.G. Wells, auteur de la "Machine à remonter le temps" étant proche de Capek, ce qui doit guider l'interprétation du terme est l'admiration mutuelle qu'ils se vouaient.

Aucune notion d'économie ici, et bien sûr aucune faute de frappe dans le texte original.

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Capek succéda à H.G. Wells à la présidence du Pen Club. Et il est cohérent de penser qu'une part de son oeuvre (R.U.R en tout cas) s'inscrivait en hommage à son prédécesseur. "Fiscal" est bien adjectif ici mais à prendre dans le sens de "payer un tribu littéraire".

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En fait il y a bien une "typo", mais elle est de mon fait : lire TRIBUT littéraire. (Shame on me!)

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Donc, traduction :

But fiscal literalism does little to explain why these works entered the cultural imaginary

"Mais le tribut littéraire ne permet pas d'expliquer pourquoi ces oeuvres ont pénétré l'imaginaire culturel, etc."
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Francis Marche
France
Local time: 19:46
Grading comment
Merci. Même avec le reste du texte difficile d'être affirmatif. Toutefois, votre solution reste la plus crédible.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2tribu littéraire
Francis Marche
4 -1libéralisme fiscal
FX Fraipont (X)
4 -2literalisme fiscal
HERBET Abel
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a bit of background context
writeaway

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -2
literalisme fiscal


Explanation:
adherence to the exact letter or the literal sense, as in translation or interpretation: to interpret the law with uncompromising literalism.

HERBET Abel
Local time: 19:46
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  GILLES MEUNIER: littéralisme et ça me semble un calque. Je n'ai rien trouvé à ce sujet
2 mins

disagree  Francis Marche: Terme opaque en français. Le domaine fiscal est hors sujet.// Veuillez vous reporter à mes notes et à la discussion.
1 hr
  -> donnez des éclaircissements alors ....
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
libéralisme fiscal


Explanation:
typo IMO "fiscal liberalism"

seems consistent with Karl Kapek's ideas :

"SciFiPulse.Net » Robots creator Karl Capek bio released
scifipulse.net/2012/09/robots-creator-karl-capek-bio-releasd/
Robots creator Karl Capek bio released ... Because of his liberal, anti-war views Capek's works were blacklisted by the Nazis occupying his homeland, as well as ...

Pay attention to the fact that "liberalism" is te exact opposite of FR "néo-libéralisme".

" In general, fiscal liberalism involves a greater government role in the economy. A fiscal liberal would probably support a minimum wage, a more progressive income tax, social welfare, government regulation of businesses, and increased government spending.

In short, "to be fiscally liberal" means "to believe that government intervention is the best way to bring about economic equality and development."

Fiscal conservatism, on the other hand, emphasizes personal economic freedom and a lesser government role. A fiscal conservative would probably oppose a minimum wage and social welfare, favoring private charity, lower, flatter taxes, less regulation of businesses, government subsidies to businesses, and reduced government spending. "
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080620003348A...

"libéralisme : Attitude de respect à l'égard de l'indépendance d'autrui, de tolérance à l'égard de ses idées, de ses croyances, de ses actes"
http://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/libéralisme

seems consistent with Karl Kapek's ideas :

"SciFiPulse.Net » Robots creator Karl Capek bio released
scifipulse.net/2012/09/robots-creator-karl-capek-bio-releasd/
Robots creator Karl Capek bio released ... Because of his liberal, anti-war views ?apek's works were blacklisted by the Nazis occupying his homeland, as well as ...

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"idées libérales en termes de fiscalité" would avoid any ambiguity.

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ce n'est pas comme si Wells et Capek n'avaient pas d'idées sur l'organisation de la société. Wells est un écrivain éminemment politique.

FX Fraipont (X)
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Francis Marche: Pas de faute de frappe. Lecture erronée de "fiscal". H.G. Wells était socialiste.// Il ne s'agit pas DU TOUT de politique fiscale ici. SVP lisez mes notes.
49 mins
  -> et alors? Les socialistes ont une vue libérale de la fiscalité, il me semble (au sens anglo-saxon = beaucoup d'état)// Vous n'en savez strictement rien, vous n'avez pas le texte source, et tout le monde fait des hypothèses
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
tribu littéraire


Explanation:
Probablement le tribu littéraire qu'un auteur rend à un autre en rendant hommage à ses idées ou son style, ou démarche d'esprit, voire en les imitant, etc.

H.G. Wells, auteur de la "Machine à remonter le temps" étant proche de Capek, ce qui doit guider l'interprétation du terme est l'admiration mutuelle qu'ils se vouaient.

Aucune notion d'économie ici, et bien sûr aucune faute de frappe dans le texte original.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2014-05-22 10:58:04 GMT)
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Capek succéda à H.G. Wells à la présidence du Pen Club. Et il est cohérent de penser qu'une part de son oeuvre (R.U.R en tout cas) s'inscrivait en hommage à son prédécesseur. "Fiscal" est bien adjectif ici mais à prendre dans le sens de "payer un tribu littéraire".

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-05-22 11:00:02 GMT)
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En fait il y a bien une "typo", mais elle est de mon fait : lire TRIBUT littéraire. (Shame on me!)

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Note added at 3 hrs (2014-05-22 11:03:35 GMT)
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Donc, traduction :

But fiscal literalism does little to explain why these works entered the cultural imaginary

"Mais le tribut littéraire ne permet pas d'expliquer pourquoi ces oeuvres ont pénétré l'imaginaire culturel, etc."

Francis Marche
France
Local time: 19:46
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Grading comment
Merci. Même avec le reste du texte difficile d'être affirmatif. Toutefois, votre solution reste la plus crédible.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  FX Fraipont (X): wild interpretation IMO // a typo is less wildly interpretative that what you came up with. - But enough of this. We disagree - that's all.
12 mins
  -> Imagining a typo and building a whole story around it, is this not "wild interpretation" ?!

agree  GILLES MEUNIER: Je pense au jeu de mots connaissant l'écrivain...
17 mins

agree  robon: Oui, 'tribut' ici est une hypothèse bien séduisante. Je parie dessus!
2 hrs

agree  writeaway: sorry I can't help further but I think this is anything but a wild interpretation. flat out literal translations En-Fr and/or Fr-En are few and far between
3 hrs
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Reference comments


1 hr
Reference: a bit of background context

Reference information:
Karel Čapek (Czech: [ˈkarɛl ˈtʃapɛk] ( listen)) (January 9, 1890 – December 25, 1938) was a Czech writer of the early 20th century best known for his science fiction, including his novel War with the Newts and the play R.U.R. that introduced the word robot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karel_Čapek

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