Analate

14:15 May 9, 2013 

you save my day. Although Matthias already pointed to it you gave me the right answer as stated in your section about chemistry paper in Mainz. That is exactly reflecting the use of analate in this lab notebook. Thank you very much! Please thanks to all others for having picked their brains - very successfully I believe - on my behalf. With kind regards, Eveline

14:06 May 9, 2013 

Let me thank you for your intelligent and vivid thoughts on this. As a matter of fact, I did not find analate as term of its own in any of my hard copy dicctionaries, either. I will brood some more over this, hoping that by tomorrow a chemist gave his/her two cents to this KudoZ. Thanks again, Eveline

13:52 May 9, 2013 

Eveline, I've done a little surfing myself, and I find several instances where either form is used to mean EITHER the substance being analysed, OR one of the substances determined to be present (or not, as the case may be!) by analysis.

If you consult Merriam-Webster, you find no mention of "analate".

I therefore conclude that, whether or not this particular use is a Tippfehler, both forms may (now) be treated as alternative spellings - we all know scientists generally are not too fussy about spelling (except in formulae!), don't we...

This is one of the Internet's (only) big disadvantages: that typing errors are taken as Gospel, and they proliferate in a flash. Maybe a scientist hit the wrong key once ("a" and "y" are after all right next to each other on many keyboards), and like Topsy it 'just growed' - or spread.

13:51 May 9, 2013 

Mehr Angaben zum Aufbau der Tabelle im Laborjournal könnten beim Raten helfen. Gibt es weitere Einträge außer "water bath" in der Spalte "Analate"? "Anal(y/a)te addition" ist hier offenbar die Probenzugabe (in Rolfs Link "Analate Addition (aka Sample Addition)"), aber für "Analate" alleine sehe ich kein Indiz, das mit "Zugabe/Zusatz" zu übersetzen.

13:43 May 9, 2013 

thanks a lot. This sheds some light on the question whether we are dealing with a typo. As suspected, definitely not a type just a very chemistry unique term. I saw Analate Addition as a method for measuring moisture now several times but still do not know how to translate Analate by itself in the notebook. I guess I just use Zusatz? Thank you and with kind regards, Eveline

13:34 May 9, 2013 

Hier Googletreffer mit "analyte addition" im gleichen Kontext wie Rolfs Treffer mit "analate addition", einer davon von der IUPAC:
http://www.labequip.com/stock/pictures/n657.pdf
http://www.iupac.org/publications/analytical_compendium/Cha0...
Sonnige Grüße,
Matthias

13:24 May 9, 2013 

Eveline, I am not a chemist, as already stated, but is it not possible that "analate" and "analyte" are actually one and the same thing?

Perhaps it would be wise to wait and see if any chemist can throw some light on this, rather than dismissing Dr. Schauen's idea out of hand?

13:11 May 9, 2013 

12:46 May 9, 2013 

aber es handelt sich nicht um einen Tippfehler. Ich habe einschlägige Chemie-Bücher in Google Books recherchiert, in der der Terminus analate addition verwendet wird. So viele Autoren können sich nicht irren, außerdem macht ja auch Analyte in meinem Kontext nur bedingt Sinn. Aber danke für den Vorschlag Grüße, Dias

08:53 May 9, 2013 

Ruth had a similar translation suggestion. I see that in combination this should be the translation Probezusatzverfahren or Additionsverfahren. However, what is the exact translation in a lab notebook when one column is titled analate and it has an entry stating water bath. Thanks and regards, Eveline

08:27 May 9, 2013 

The following site appears to define "analate" pretty well, in the very first paragraph:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01216465#page-1
where in lines 6/7 it says: "...the species being determined (analate)".

This may help you decide on a suitable German term - I am no help, as no chemist!

08:00 May 9, 2013 

Additionsverfahren