expeditionary ships

Hebrew translation: כח משימה משולב

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English term or phrase:expeditionary ships
Hebrew translation:כח משימה משולב
Entered by: Lingopro

18:07 Dec 26, 2011
English to Hebrew translations [PRO]
Transport / Transportation / Shipping / Ship types
English term or phrase: expeditionary ships
Four classes of U.S. Navy aircraft carriers and **expeditionary ships** carry the SSDS.

Is it ספינות משלחת? Somehow it doesn't seem right...
Lingopro
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כח משימה משולב
Explanation:
Expeditionary strike groups are a newer naval organization comprised of several task forces to combine and increase sea, air and land attack abilities. Not all ships in an ESG are expeditionary ships.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +1ספינות משלוח צבאיות ספינות משלחת צבאיות ספינות חיל המשלוח
Yevgeniy Y. Zingerman
4ספינות כוח משימה
Doron Greenspan MITI
3כח משימה משולב
Joshua11 (X)
3ספינות אמפיביות
Gad Kohenov
Summary of reference entries provided
סרט היסטורי על חיל המשלוח הבריטי
Gad Kohenov
ספינה רב-תכליתית
Ty Kendall

  

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ספינות משלוח צבאיות ספינות משלחת צבאיות ספינות חיל המשלוח


Explanation:
Expeditionary forces
מתורגמים בויקיפדיה בתור
חיל המשלוח

אולי הוספת המילה "צבאיות" ל"ספינות משלוח" תעזור לכוונן את המשמעות קצת


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Note added at 23 mins (2011-12-26 18:30:45 GMT)
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סליחה, בכותרת התשובה שלי נעלמו קווים נטויים בין שלושת הגרסאות המוצעות

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Note added at 47 mins (2011-12-26 18:54:32 GMT)
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כן, ספינות חיל הים גם נשמע בסדר גמור


    Reference: http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%99%D7%9C_%D7%94%D7%9E...
Yevgeniy Y. Zingerman
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Asker: Thanks, Yevgeniy.</br> I'm not sure about the relevance of the link which talks about WWI <b>Forces</b>. </br>My text is current and talks about two types of US Navy ships: <b>aircraft carriers and expeditionary ships</b>.</br>So, while it may be called ספינות משלוח, I need to base it on something more relevant than 1917... :-).</br>BTW, I think חיל הים is more appropriate than צבאיות.


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agree  Shlomit Grossman: ספינות משלוח
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  -> תוודה רבה :)
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ספינות כוח משימה


Explanation:
These are ships that make up a task force (expeditionary force) that the US and other countries send to various parts of the world. American ships normally accompany an aircraft carrier.


    Reference: http://www.navytimes.com/legacy/new/0-NAVYPAPER-1662007.php
Doron Greenspan MITI
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Asker: Thank you, Doron. </br>I assume you mean <b>expeditionary</b> (not American) ships normally accompany an aircraft carrier. </br>Thanks for the interesting link that helped shed light on what these ships are.

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כח משימה משולב


Explanation:
Expeditionary strike groups are a newer naval organization comprised of several task forces to combine and increase sea, air and land attack abilities. Not all ships in an ESG are expeditionary ships.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expeditionary_Strike_Group
Joshua11 (X)
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Asker: Thank you, Joshua! Very helpful link.

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ספינות אמפיביות


Explanation:
www.amiinter.com/.../IMDEX%202011%20AMI%20Asia- ...
לפי מה שכתוב במאמר זה מדובר בספינות אמפיביות אשר מסייעות בשעת נחיתה על חוף עוין

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Gad Kohenov
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Asker: Thanks, Gad.

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Reference comments


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Reference: סרט היסטורי על חיל המשלוח הבריטי

Reference information:
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=24790

The British Expeditionary Force

שנאלץ לשוב על עקבותיו במסגרת "נס דנקירק" מ-1940

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Note added at 1 hr (2011-12-26 19:10:03 GMT)
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http://www.wordnik.com/words/expeditionary
ספינות משלוח מתאים כאן לדעתי

הסבר על SSDS

SSDS
Ship's Self Defense System (SSDS) is an integrated weapons system used aboard large U.S. Navy ships, such as Nimitz class supercarriers and various amphibious assault ships, such as LHDs and LSDs. SSDS is an integrated combat direction system (CDS). SSDS follows an open architecture approach and uses existing shipboard radars and weapons systems, integrated under a COTS framework, to provide a cohesive CDS. The first SSDS designs were backfit onto existing U.S. Navy ships.



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Note added at 1 hr (2011-12-26 19:13:50 GMT)
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קטע ממאמר בעיתון הגארדיין הבריטי
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/23/michael-...

They do not even suggest that the navy's two new aircraft carriers should be scrapped, trimmed or mothballed. It is too late for that. At 65,000 tonnes apiece, they are due to be completed at Rosyth (Brown did grasp constituency employment issues) for at least £4bn, by 2016-ish. The authors do insist that 21st-century "expeditionary" warfare will need versatile surface ships – and that defence is not a discretionary spending item even for impoverished coalitions. Over to you, Liam Fox.

Gad Kohenov
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Asker: This is very helpful, as always. Thank you, Gad.

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Reference: ספינה רב-תכליתית

Reference information:
Whilst my military dictionary gives חיל משלוח for "expeditionary force", therefore logic might dictate something like what you suggested above.

I agree that it lacks something intangible.....

If Doron's link is accurate (my own research suggests it is) that an expeditionary ship is an amphibious, multipurpose, multifunction ship then perhaps something along the lines of
ספינה רב-תכליתית
might be possible.
Or a variation on this.


    Reference: http://maarachot.idf.il/PDF/FILES/2/112312.pdf
Ty Kendall
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: English
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