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Sarser

Portuguese translation: pratin

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English term or phrase:sarser
Portuguese translation:pratin
Entered by: Anderson Calixto

22:39 May 15, 2020
English to Portuguese translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Poetry & Literature / English literature/Charle
English term or phrase: Sarser
The context here comes from a House to Let by Charles Dickens. I cannot guess the meaning, it would be possibly a tip or a little investment. Please help me, here are some passages:

HE had no property, nor hope of property, except his house and a sarser.

And when I say a sarser, I mean a Chaney sarser in which he made a collection for himself at the end of every Entertainment.

The sarser was a little income, bringing him in so many halfpence that he'd carry 'em for a week together, tied up in a pocket- handkercher.

Everywheres, the sarser was a goin round.
JOSE SOUZA
Brazil
Local time: 17:35
pratin
Explanation:
Possivelmente sarser seja uma grafia que Dickens usou para imitar a pronúncia "errada" de pessoas de condição humilde, como é o caso do personagem em questão. Referência: "(...) Lindley Murray (...) placed sarcer for saucer under 'Words which are often pronounced very erroneously' (...). https://books.google.com.br/books?id=JHxaAAAAMAAJ&dq=sarcer ...

Outra referência: sarse (countable and uncountable, plural sarses)

Eye dialect spelling of sauce.
1833, John Neal, The Down-Easters, Volume 1:
I wanted cabbage or potaters, or most any sort o' garden sarse … .
1870, Thomas Bailey Aldrich, The Story of a Bad Boy:
"I don't want any of your sarse," said the boy, scowling.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarse

Em vista disso, escolhi "pratin" para ser fiel ao recurso literário usado por Dickens. Pois pires é um "pratinho sobre o qual se coloca a chávena" https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pires

("Chaney" talvez corresponda a "China", que significa porcelana.)
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Anderson Calixto
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Local time: 17:35
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4 +2pratin
Anderson Calixto
4pires de porcelana (chinês)
MARCOS BAZILIO
2pires
Matheus Chaud


  

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sarser
pires


Explanation:

Talvez uma forma "diferente" de dizer saucer?

https://books.google.com.br/books?id=cWkVAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA53&lp...
...and the cups and sarsers ready laid....

Matheus Chaud
Brazil
Local time: 17:35
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 267
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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
pratin


Explanation:
Possivelmente sarser seja uma grafia que Dickens usou para imitar a pronúncia "errada" de pessoas de condição humilde, como é o caso do personagem em questão. Referência: "(...) Lindley Murray (...) placed sarcer for saucer under 'Words which are often pronounced very erroneously' (...). https://books.google.com.br/books?id=JHxaAAAAMAAJ&dq=sarcer ...

Outra referência: sarse (countable and uncountable, plural sarses)

Eye dialect spelling of sauce.
1833, John Neal, The Down-Easters, Volume 1:
I wanted cabbage or potaters, or most any sort o' garden sarse … .
1870, Thomas Bailey Aldrich, The Story of a Bad Boy:
"I don't want any of your sarse," said the boy, scowling.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sarse

Em vista disso, escolhi "pratin" para ser fiel ao recurso literário usado por Dickens. Pois pires é um "pratinho sobre o qual se coloca a chávena" https://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/pires

("Chaney" talvez corresponda a "China", que significa porcelana.)

Anderson Calixto
Brazil
Local time: 17:35
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Julio Cinquina
4 hrs
  -> Obrigado, Julio!
agree  Hélio Grangeiro
124 days
  -> Obrigado, Hélio!
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
sarser
pires de porcelana (chinês)


Explanation:
Questão anteriormente discutida e escolhida no PROZ...
"chaney sarser" (china saucer) - Pires de porcelana

Selected answer:china shop
Explanation:
I found this http://dickens.classicauthors.net/goingintosociety/
Dickens' Going into Society, where he talks about
front door and parlour winders. (WINDOWS)
and a "chaney sarser" (china saucer)

In other words, the horse kicked in the windows in two china (dishware) shops ... HTH

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Patricia Rosas
United States
Local time: 09:05
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https://www.proz.com/kudoz/english/poetry-literature/1819408...


MARCOS BAZILIO
Brazil
Local time: 17:35
Native speaker of: Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 4
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