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"Survival" Phrases

Spanish translation: frases \"de bolsillo\"

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English term or phrase:\"Survival\" Phrases
Spanish translation:frases \"de bolsillo\"
Entered by: Max Ahumada

01:24 Aug 26, 2013
English to Spanish translations [PRO]
Linguistics / English Learning
English term or phrase: "Survival" Phrases
Hi, everybody! This concerns an English-to-Spanish translation, and the term that is bugging me is "survival" as it is in the following:

"We call these SURVIVAL phrases, but I would like to emphasize that learners of all levels make these mistakes, including, believe it or not, a lot of non-native teachers"

I could just choose the easy way and translate it as "frases de supervivencia" but it seems to me that the figurative meaning of survival is not as widely used in Spanish as in English. A translation that would do it is "frases que sacan de apuros", except that it is too wordy, especially since it is said many times in the text.

What's your opinion?
Max Ahumada
Argentina
Local time: 10:38
frases "de bolsillo"
Explanation:
Es una idea un poco "enfant terrible", (como las frases de una guía de bolsillo)

http://survivalphrases.com/



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Note added at 48 mins (2013-08-26 02:13:02 GMT)
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Without too much context I'd tend to say "frases de supervivencia" or "expresiones básicas"... "frases para un apuro" "frases para salir de apuros"
Incluso "expresiones útiles [en... ruso, por ejemplo]" or the way I did, coining "frases de bolsillo".

Probably "frases de supervivencia" or "frases para sobrevivir en..." works just fine. I will depend on your overall context.

Good luck!

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Note added at 50 mins (2013-08-26 02:14:27 GMT)
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Errata:
It will depend (not "I").

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Note added at 1 day21 hrs (2013-08-27 22:50:54 GMT) Post-grading
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You're welcome! :-)

Con nuestas frases “de bolsillo”...
tendrás el éxito en el bolsillo...
(donde quiera que vayas)
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JohnMcDove
United States
Local time: 06:38
Grading comment
Thank you! :)
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
4 +6Frases socorridas
Toni Castano
5 +2frases esenciales
Rosa Paredes
4 +1frases elementales
Dario Moya
5frases para defenderse con el idioma extranjero
Ligia Gonzalez
4frases de cabecera
claudia bagnardi
3 +1frases "de bolsillo"
JohnMcDove


Discussion entries: 3





  

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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
"survival" phrases
frases elementales


Explanation:
Another option.

Dario Moya
Colombia
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

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agree  boudica2011
11 hrs
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
"survival" phrases
frases esenciales


Explanation:
es.babbel.com/frases-en-ingles‎
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De nada sirve aprender extensas listas de vocabulario en inglés si este ... Al viajar necesitaremos conocer frases esenciales con las que manejarnos en hoteles ...

www.diariodelviajero.com/.../las-cuatro-frases...‎
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by Guillermo Carvajal - in 2,813 Google+ circles
May 2, 2006 - Las cuatro frases esenciales para viajeros en todos los idiomas ... Travel Phrases es un sitio web bastante curioso y útil para cualquier viajero.

Rosa Paredes
Canada
Local time: 09:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mike Yarnold (X)
16 hrs
  -> Thanks :)
agree  boudica2011
23 hrs
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8 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +6
"survival" phrases
Frases socorridas


Explanation:
If you want to avoid a too wordy translation, as you have pointed out in your explanation, you could use the term “socorrido”, which fits well in your context (= “frases que sacan de apuros”), i.e. a term applicable to everyday phrases you can resort to in a series of situations to get out of the “entanglement”… if any :-)


Defition of “socorrido” according to RAE Dictionary:
http://lema.rae.es/drae/?val=socorrido
socorrido, da.
(Del part. de socorrer).
1. adj. Dicho de una persona: Que con facilidad socorre la necesidad de otra.
2. adj. Dicho de una cosa: En que se halla con facilidad lo que es menester. La plaza de Madrid es muy socorrida.
3. adj. Dicho de un recurso: Que fácilmente y con frecuencia sirve para resolver una dificultad.

http://blog.infoviajero.es/libros/ingles-para-viajar/
Tampoco falta un amplio listado de frases socorridas, y expresiones tradicionales. El diccionario que incorpora puede ser muy útil. Tan sencillo como llevar nuestro Kindle con nosotros y acudir a Inglés para Viajar siempre que lo precisemos.

http://www.forocomun.com/mensajes-similares.php?id=192692
Vale, es una forma de saludar como otra cualquiera. Cuando dos se encuentran en el pueblo y se paran para charlar un poco, las frases socorridas suelen ser: ¿Qué haces? ¿Dónde vas? ¿Has visto a...? ¿Te has enterado? Aquí comienza el chismorreo y si es entre mujeres lo tenemos claro, se cuentan lo habido y lo por haber. Un saludo... por si viene alguien y me lo echa en cara.



Toni Castano
Spain
Local time: 15:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 8

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Beatriz Ramírez de Haro: Buena opción. Saludos Toni
41 mins
  -> Muchas gracias, Bea. También para ti.
agree  Charles Davis: A mí también me gusta mucho esta opción.
1 hr
  -> Muchas gracias, Charles.
agree  Antonio Arizcun
1 hr
  -> Muchas gracias, Antonio.
agree  Ion Zubizarreta: Suena bien en este contexto.
2 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias, Ion.
agree  maelstrom143 (X)
3 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias, maelstrom143.
agree  InesV: Sí, o "frases comodín" :)
10 hrs
  -> Gracias, IvesV.
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9 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
"survival" phrases
frases para defenderse con el idioma extranjero


Explanation:
Suele decirse que hay unas frases para defendernos en una lengua extranjera. Las frases elementales para sobrevivir.

Ligia Gonzalez
Colombia
Local time: 08:38
Works in field
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
"survival" phrases
frases de cabecera


Explanation:
Son las frases a las que uno recurre habitualmente.
Una opción más.
Saludos
Claudia

claudia bagnardi
Local time: 10:38
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 8
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
"survival" phrases
frases "de bolsillo"


Explanation:
Es una idea un poco "enfant terrible", (como las frases de una guía de bolsillo)

http://survivalphrases.com/



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Note added at 48 mins (2013-08-26 02:13:02 GMT)
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Without too much context I'd tend to say "frases de supervivencia" or "expresiones básicas"... "frases para un apuro" "frases para salir de apuros"
Incluso "expresiones útiles [en... ruso, por ejemplo]" or the way I did, coining "frases de bolsillo".

Probably "frases de supervivencia" or "frases para sobrevivir en..." works just fine. I will depend on your overall context.

Good luck!

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Note added at 50 mins (2013-08-26 02:14:27 GMT)
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Errata:
It will depend (not "I").

--------------------------------------------------
Note added at 1 day21 hrs (2013-08-27 22:50:54 GMT) Post-grading
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You're welcome! :-)

Con nuestas frases “de bolsillo”...
tendrás el éxito en el bolsillo...
(donde quiera que vayas)

JohnMcDove
United States
Local time: 06:38
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish
PRO pts in category: 40
Grading comment
Thank you! :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Marisa Raich: Sí, me gusta "frases para sobrevivir en..." Creo que refleja exactamente el sentido del original.
7 hrs
  -> Muchas gracias, Marisa. :-)
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