beg

19:14 Jan 26, 2015
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English to Turkish translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History
English term or phrase: beg
Yazarın, kitabını ithaf ettiği giriş kısmında, ilk cümlede şöyle geçiyor:

"To the most serene and invincible prince and lord Henry, by the grace of God Dauphin of France, I beg your humble servant Theodore Meodore, patrician of Constantinople."

Shorter Oxford'da yakın ve ipucu veren iki anlam şöyle:

* Ask or take leave to do something
** Ask an epistolary formula: offer, wish to send (compliments etc.)

Ancak yukarıdaki cümlede, izin istenilen veya gönderilmesi dilenen şeyin kendisi, yani beg'in nesnesi yok. Aşırı zorlamayla, "Kitabı size adamama izin verin" ya da "size adıyorum" türünden bir şey diyeceğim ama sallamış olmayayım. Yukarıdaki haliyle cümle bana düşük, beg'in bir nesnesi eksik gibi geliyor, anlamını tam oturtamıyorum.

Ne diyebiliriz?

Teşekkürler.
NecdetB
Türkiye
Local time: 15:13


Summary of answers provided
4yalvarıyorum
Murat Kaymakcilar
4arz etmek
Recep Kurt
4 -1saygılarımla
Salih YILDIRIM
3diliyorum, rica ediyorum
Zeki Güler
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English monolingual
Kim Metzger

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13 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
saygılarımla


Explanation:
Yakışır derim!

Salih YILDIRIM
United States
Local time: 08:13
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
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disagree  Kim Metzger: To the prince, yours truly, your humble servant wouldn't be a complete sentence. The asker is looking for help with archaic English usage.
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42 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
yalvarıyorum


Explanation:
"..size yalvarıyorum bendeniz (hürmetkâr kulunuz)... " şeklinde gidiyor olabileceğini değerlendiriyorum. Ancak (özellikle) önceki ve sonraki cümleleri de görmekte fayda var. Çünkü anlam bir şeyi istemek veya reddetmek şeklinde mi geliyor onu göremiyoruz. Umarım yardımcı olur, kolay gelsin.

Murat Kaymakcilar
Türkiye
Local time: 15:13
Native speaker of: Native in TurkishTurkish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Teşekkürler. Yukarıya, takip eden birkaç cümleyi astım. Öncesi yok zaten.

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51 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
arz etmek


Explanation:
"...naçiz kulunuz Theodore olarak arz ederim..." denilebilir sanırım

Ref:
Synonyms
appeal (to), beseech, besiege, conjure, entreat, impetrate, implore, importune, petition, plead (to), pray, solicit, supplicate, call on (or upon)


    Reference: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/beg
Recep Kurt
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Local time: 15:13
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16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
diliyorum, rica ediyorum


Explanation:
"Diliyorum", "rica ediyorum", hatta biraz daha yerin dibine girerek, yüz dökerek "niyaz ediyorum" da denebilir.

Zeki Güler
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Reference comments


1 hr peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: English monolingual

Reference information:
I think your best bet would be to ask this question under English - English. I have a master's degree in English literature and have not been able to find the meaning of "beg" as it's used here. This is a translation of the book published in Italian in 1538. It may be synonymous with "offer". The author is offering himself/his work to his patron.


    Reference: http://www.cambridge.org/mx/academic/subjects/history/europe...
Kim Metzger
Mexico
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Note to reference poster
Asker: Thanks. I'll consider that option, too.


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agree  Selçuk Dilşen
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