modern style (in a 16th C. date)

English translation: according to the new (Gregorian) calendar

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English term or phrase:modern style (in a 16th C. date)
Selected answer:according to the new (Gregorian) calendar
Entered by: _floriana_

13:19 Mar 16, 2010
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Art/Literary - Architecture / History of architecture
English term or phrase: modern style (in a 16th C. date)
In an essay on a 16th C. Venetian sculptor and architect, it reads:

By 5 February 1533 (modern style) Tullio had died

What does the author mean by modern style?
_floriana_
Italy
Local time: 13:24
according to the new (Gregorian) calendar
Explanation:
If it is important to preserve consistency with primary sources, you may give the date in the original style, but then you must also give the date in the modern style. For example, Elizabeth I of England died on 24 March 1602 (Old Style)/3 April 1603 (New Style).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/(date...


The Gregorian calendar is the internationally accepted civil calendar.[1][2][3] It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582, a papal bull known by its opening words Inter gravissimas.[4] The reformed calendar was adopted later that year by a handful of countries, with other countries adopting it over the following centuries.
The Gregorian calendar reform contained two parts, a reform of the Julian calendar as used up to Pope Gregory's time, together with a reform of the lunar cycle used by the Church along with the Julian calendar for calculating dates of Easter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

In September 1752 the Julian calendar was replaced with the Gregorian calendar in Great Britain and its American colonies. The Julian calendar was 11 days ...
didyouknow.org/calendar/


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Browser-based utility which converts dates in modern style to several ancient and medieval calendar styles. Dictionary of Old English - Externally Available ...
http://www.unc.edu/student/orgs/cams/links.htm

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On 12 February 1507 [modern style] Lorenzo and ...... describing the same mascherata, is dated 25 February 1505 (1506 modern style). See D'Accone, ...
journals.cambridge.org/production/action/cjoGetFulltext?fulltextid

... and you can find examples of the phrase "dates are given in modern style".

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In other words, where "modern style" (sometimes "new style") or "old style" follows immediately after a date, it refers to the calendar used:

Born at Philadelphia, in the year 1747, (March 24th old style, but April 4th, by the change of style,) he yet lives, in a good old age, the Presiding Bishop ...
www.archive.org/stream/.../nationalportrait01herr2_djvu.txt
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Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:24
Grading comment
thanks!
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
4 +9according to the new (Gregorian) calendar
Dylan Edwards
4 +1modern style period / mannerism
Sarah Bessioud
4modern
Françoise Vogel


  

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16 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
modern style (in a 16th c. date)
modern


Explanation:
as a transition between two styles ... modern does not mean contemporary.

Tullio Lombardo (Tullio di Pietro Solari da Carona) - 1455-1532:

"lo stile dell'artista è quello che corrisponde alla transizione dal linguaggio prospettico e umanistico quattrocentesco al classicismo maturo della “maniera moderna”, sia nell'architettura sia nella scultura veneziana."

For a sculptor in late fifteenth-century Venice, to be modern meant to breathe new life into the lost world of classical antiquity, glimpsed through literature and fragmentary ancient remains and envisioned as a wondrous place of ideal beauty. Tullio’s sculpture summoned up an antiquity of imagination, with works of a kind never seen before: busts in high relief portraying figures based on Greek and Roman models, but given contemporary (fifteenth-century) hairstyles and costumes.
http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2009/tullio/index.shtm

Françoise Vogel
Local time: 13:24
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Christopher Crockett: Sorry, Francoise, your Art History is correct, but in this case the phrase refers to the specific date itself, as Dylan explains in some detail.
45 mins
  -> undoubtedly ! ... 1532 vs. 1533 is a clear indication. What a coincidence! Thank you for your comment.
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
modern style (in a 16th c. date)
modern style period / mannerism


Explanation:
This refers to the modern style period (la maniera moderna), alternatively known as mannerism, which emerged in the early 16th century in Italy.


    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannerism
    Reference: http://www.artandpopularculture.com/Mannerism
Sarah Bessioud
Germany
Local time: 13:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  juvera: Well done.
31 mins
  -> Thanks juvera

neutral  Christopher Crockett: Sorry, Jeux, your Art History is correct, but in this case the phrase refers to the specific date itself, as Dylan explains in some detail.
39 mins
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19 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +9
modern style (in a 16th c. date)
according to the new (Gregorian) calendar


Explanation:
If it is important to preserve consistency with primary sources, you may give the date in the original style, but then you must also give the date in the modern style. For example, Elizabeth I of England died on 24 March 1602 (Old Style)/3 April 1603 (New Style).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/(date...


The Gregorian calendar is the internationally accepted civil calendar.[1][2][3] It was introduced by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, by a decree signed on 24 February 1582, a papal bull known by its opening words Inter gravissimas.[4] The reformed calendar was adopted later that year by a handful of countries, with other countries adopting it over the following centuries.
The Gregorian calendar reform contained two parts, a reform of the Julian calendar as used up to Pope Gregory's time, together with a reform of the lunar cycle used by the Church along with the Julian calendar for calculating dates of Easter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar

In September 1752 the Julian calendar was replaced with the Gregorian calendar in Great Britain and its American colonies. The Julian calendar was 11 days ...
didyouknow.org/calendar/


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Note added at 22 mins (2010-03-16 13:42:47 GMT)
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Browser-based utility which converts dates in modern style to several ancient and medieval calendar styles. Dictionary of Old English - Externally Available ...
http://www.unc.edu/student/orgs/cams/links.htm

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Note added at 30 mins (2010-03-16 13:50:20 GMT)
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On 12 February 1507 [modern style] Lorenzo and ...... describing the same mascherata, is dated 25 February 1505 (1506 modern style). See D'Accone, ...
journals.cambridge.org/production/action/cjoGetFulltext?fulltextid

... and you can find examples of the phrase "dates are given in modern style".

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Note added at 35 mins (2010-03-16 13:55:49 GMT)
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In other words, where "modern style" (sometimes "new style") or "old style" follows immediately after a date, it refers to the calendar used:

Born at Philadelphia, in the year 1747, (March 24th old style, but April 4th, by the change of style,) he yet lives, in a good old age, the Presiding Bishop ...
www.archive.org/stream/.../nationalportrait01herr2_djvu.txt

Dylan Edwards
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:24
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
thanks!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Angela Dickson (X)
13 mins
  -> Thanks, Angela.

agree  Stephanie Ezrol
14 mins
  -> Thanks, Stephanie.

agree  Michal Berski
15 mins
  -> Thanks, Michal.

agree  Christopher Crockett: Absolutely, without question --though I've never, ever seen "modern style," always "1533 (n.s.)" (=New Style) or "o.s." (=whatever). The author is clearly qualifying his date, not the style of art.
42 mins
  -> Thanks, Christopher. It's good to have your informed comments. I see the OED gives "Old Style" (OS) and "New Style" (NS).

agree  Françoise Vogel
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Francoise.

agree  Neil Mann: agree & also agree with Christopher C above that "modern" is not usual.
6 hrs
  -> Thank you. Yes, "new style" is used more often.

agree  kmtext
19 hrs
  -> Thanks, kmtext.

agree  B D Finch
1 day 9 mins
  -> Thank you!

agree  eski: Most likely;I think. eski
1 day 8 hrs
  -> Thank you, eski.
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