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be in with a shout

English translation: have a claim to be considered

20:04 Dec 4, 2014
English language (monolingual) [Non-PRO]
Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / toilet paper
English term or phrase: be in with a shout
HI,
Does " be in with a shout' have both literal meaning and idiomatic meaning?

the context


The right to be seen as the inventor of something often seems to depend on what you think its defining characteristics are. For example, toilet paper seems to be Chinese-they have been using it since the sixth country-but if you only use twoply, then the British are in with a shout.
sunny20101211
China
Selected answer:have a claim to be considered
Explanation:
That's in your context - generally it means "have a good chance", according to Oxford dictionaries http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/in-with...

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Note added at 9 mins (2014-12-04 20:13:45 GMT)
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I would say that the expression does not really have a literal meaning any longer.
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Agneta Pallinder
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:40
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4 +5have a claim to be considered
Agneta Pallinder


  

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7 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
have a claim to be considered


Explanation:
That's in your context - generally it means "have a good chance", according to Oxford dictionaries http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/in-with...

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Note added at 9 mins (2014-12-04 20:13:45 GMT)
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I would say that the expression does not really have a literal meaning any longer.

Agneta Pallinder
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:40
Native speaker of: Native in SwedishSwedish, Native in EnglishEnglish
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Jack Doughty
14 mins
  -> Thanks Jack!
agree  Tony M
1 hr
  -> Thanks Tony!
agree  Charles Davis: Yes: here it means to have a good chance of winning this metaphorical competition (to be considered the inventor of toilet paper), and I agree that the literal meaning of "shout" is not relevant.
11 hrs
  -> Thanks Charles!
agree  Gayle Wallimann
11 hrs
  -> Thanks Gayle!
agree  Phong Le
4 days
  -> Thanks!
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