males account for

English translation: victims

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English term or phrase:	males account for
Selected answer:	victims
Entered by:	Nadia Ayoub

14:09 Aug 21, 2017

English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Social Sciences - International Org/Dev/Coop

English term or phrase: males account for

Homicide is now also somewhat better documented: of the estimated 470,000 homicides each year, males account for more than 80% of all cases, and nearly half involve firearms.

I am not sure whether the males are the victims or the perpetrators of 80% of the crimes.

Thank you for your help!

Nadia Ayoub KudoZ activity Questions: 233 (1 open) (3 without valid answers) (8 closed without grading) Answers: 5921 Egypt
Local time: 22:13

victims

Explanation:
"4 out of 5 are males"
http://www.who.int/publications/10-year-review/ncd-other-dim...

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yes, it is ambiguous and it's possible that the percentage of perpetrators is similarly male but in the graphic it's clearly talking about victims

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Note added at 12 mins (2017-08-21 14:21:44 GMT)
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Well, if you can do it easily, yes. But the graphic does spell out that the figure relates to deaths, i.e victims so I think it's safe to go with that.

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Glad to have helped

Selected response from:

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 21:13

Grading comment

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4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer

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4 +3

victims

Yvonne Gallagher

4 +1

ambiguous

airmailrpl

Murders

Phoenix III

Answers

22 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

ambiguous

Explanation:
the text is ambiguous about whether the males are the victims or the perpetrators of 80% of the crimes

airmailrpl
Brazil
Local time: 17:13
Native speaker of:

English,

Portuguese
PRO pts in category: 4

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

neutral

Phoenix III: It is not ambiguous because by definition it refers to crime victims.

32 mins

-> there is NO mention of the word victim in the source text

neutral

Edith Kelly: with Phoenix

2 hrs

-> see above

agree

Armorel Young: Absolutely - it's ambiguous and on the face of it could easily apply to perpetrators (if you replaced "homicides" with "thefts", for example, wouldn't you be talking about perpetrators?)

16 hrs

-> thank you

agree

Daryo: just on its own, it couldn't be more ambiguous // obviously, as with any other text, the more context you have available, the less ambiguities subsist.

19 hrs

-> thank you

disagree

Yvonne Gallagher: it's not ambiguous when you actually look at the graphic

19 hrs

-> there is no graphic supplied by the asker

53 mins confidence:

Murders

Explanation:
According to the definition of homicide, it refers to killings, murders and/or manslaughter.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/homicide

Phoenix III
United States
Local time: 16:13
Native speaker of:

English,

Spanish

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you!

5 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +3

victims

Yvonne Gallagher
Ireland
Local time: 21:13
Works in field
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 16

Grading comment

Thank you!

Notes to answerer

Asker: Thank you!

Asker: Do you think I'd better leave it vague?

Asker: OK! Many thanks :)

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)

agree

Charles Davis: Yes, ambiguous, but means victims. "Globally, some 80% of homicide victims and 95% of perpetrators are men" http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/press/releases/2014/April/some...

57 mins

-> Thanks. Shocked at the perpetrator statistic! Didn't realise it was that high.

agree

philgoddard: Don't leave it vague, Nadia. If there's a flaw in the text, you should correct it in your translation.

1 hr

-> Thanks. There isn't actually any flaw in her text, and it's clear from graphic "homicide deaths" relates to victims

agree

Edith Kelly: it's not ambiguous, it's very clear, that's why I go for non-Pro

2 hrs

-> Thanks but the text as given was ambiguous. I had to find other evidence (the graphic) to clarify it

disagree

Daryo: without any additional information, it's impossible to know - on its own it's totally ambiguous.

20 hrs

-> With the additional info I (and Charles) found it is very clear

agree

AllegroTrans

4 days

-> Many thanks:-)

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