Freedom can not be assumed

English translation: You can not just take for granted that you will have protection

03:40 Sep 20, 2008
English language (monolingual) [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Patents, Trademarks, Copyright / Patents
English term or phrase: Freedom can not be assumed
Dear all,

I would like to understand the meaning of the above phrase "Freedom can not be assumed".

Here's an excerpt of the text:

"The company gives no warranty as to the fitness of the Product for any particular purpose and any implied warranty or condition (statutory or otherwise) is excluded except to the extent that such exclusion is prevented by law. (Freedom under Patent, Copyright and Designs cannot be assumed)".

Many thanks!
Ali Al awadi
Türkiye
Selected answer:You can not just take for granted that you will have protection
Explanation:
When I apply for a patent, even though I pay the money and I receive the receipt for the patent, even then the patents office sends me a letter stating that just because I have done all of this, I still should not assume that the product is covered by the patent, as I may have some of the wording incorrect and it isn't until it is challenged by law, will I know for certain the product is covered.
Other examples:
Do not assume that because you have had your car serviced it will be safe to travel in.
Only after the journey will you know for certain that the car was ok to go.
Ie; make sure you have breakdown insurance.

Do not assume that because the light is green you can cross the intersection with out having an accident. There could be a careless driver running the read light so you must not just trust the light, you must also look.

What freedom means here is that don't assume that just because it has copyright etc and you start selling it using the copyright as a marketing tool, and if some one else brings out a similar product and kills your sales, don't come back to our company looking for compensation thinking our copyright was covering you, IT is up to you to fully investigate for your self, If copyright of the product is valid in your area.

The text sounds like from an international agency agreement between a company and a wholesaler.


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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-20 06:46:01 GMT)
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typos/..... without ... Red light......
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Gary D
Local time: 19:41
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SUMMARY OF ALL EXPLANATIONS PROVIDED
5You can not just take for granted that you will have protection
Gary D
4infringement (of the patent) cannot be assumed
Richard C. Baca, MIM
4freedom to interpret Copyright ...as you wish is not assumed
zax
3 +1no guarantee of freedom from patent, copyright or design protection is given
Ken Cox
3there is no guarantee that the Patent, Copyright and Designs clauses are valid
David Hollywood


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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
freedom can not be assumed
there is no guarantee that the Patent, Copyright and Designs clauses are valid


Explanation:
I would say ...

David Hollywood
Local time: 06:41
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Erika Lichtenberg, DPSI: I think that Patent, Copyright and Designs refers to particular laws of each country where the product is to be sold/used. I.e where the product is made in the UK, do not assume that German copyright will apply if you sell/use the product in Germany.
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
freedom can not be assumed
You can not just take for granted that you will have protection


Explanation:
When I apply for a patent, even though I pay the money and I receive the receipt for the patent, even then the patents office sends me a letter stating that just because I have done all of this, I still should not assume that the product is covered by the patent, as I may have some of the wording incorrect and it isn't until it is challenged by law, will I know for certain the product is covered.
Other examples:
Do not assume that because you have had your car serviced it will be safe to travel in.
Only after the journey will you know for certain that the car was ok to go.
Ie; make sure you have breakdown insurance.

Do not assume that because the light is green you can cross the intersection with out having an accident. There could be a careless driver running the read light so you must not just trust the light, you must also look.

What freedom means here is that don't assume that just because it has copyright etc and you start selling it using the copyright as a marketing tool, and if some one else brings out a similar product and kills your sales, don't come back to our company looking for compensation thinking our copyright was covering you, IT is up to you to fully investigate for your self, If copyright of the product is valid in your area.

The text sounds like from an international agency agreement between a company and a wholesaler.


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Note added at 3 hrs (2008-09-20 06:46:01 GMT)
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typos/..... without ... Red light......

Gary D
Local time: 19:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
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Asker: Many thanks Gary!

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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
freedom can not be assumed
infringement (of the patent) cannot be assumed


Explanation:
This is a tough one!

Richard C. Baca, MIM
Mexico
Local time: 02:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in SpanishSpanish
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
freedom can not be assumed
freedom to interpret Copyright ...as you wish is not assumed


Explanation:
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zax
Local time: 05:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic, Native in EnglishEnglish
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17 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
freedom can not be assumed
no guarantee of freedom from patent, copyright or design protection is given


Explanation:
This phrase is apparently relatively common in the legal disclaimers of a variety of organisations, and it probably originates from some time in the distant past when the meaning would have been more apparent.

I am not *certain* of the meaning, but in light of the wording often used in such disclaimers in more modern language, I imagine that it means 'No guarantee is given that items or products mentioned in this document are free from protection under the terms of a patent, copyright, or registered design'.

This is usually worded in modern language as in the following example:

TVFUN HEREBY EXPRESSLY REJECTS ANY EXPLICIT OR TACIT UNDERTAKING OR GUARANTEE, OF WHATEVER NATURE, WITH REGARD TO THE ACCURACY, CURRENCY, COMPLETENESS OR SUITABILITY FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE OF (INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO) ANY INFORMATION PRESENT ON THIS WEBSITE OR PROVIDED VIA THIS WEBSITE AND/OR ANY PRODUCT DESCRIBED OR RECOMMENDED ON THIS WEBSITE INCLUDING GUARANTEES WITH REGARD TO INFRINGEMENT OF ANY PATENT, COPYRIGHT OF OTHER RIGHTS OF THIRD PARTIES.
http://www.tvfun.tv/legal/disclaimer.html

Ken Cox
Local time: 11:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Erika Lichtenberg, DPSI
1849 days
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