tai yhteen tai useampaan putkeen sen akselin 22 suhteen vastakkaiseen päähän
English translation: [cross-pipe(s) attached] to one or more pipe(s) at the opposite end of the shaft 22
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peer agreement (net): +1[cross-pipe(s) attached] to one or more pipe(s) at the opposite end of the shaft 22 Explanation: Oh, no, Yngve! Is this one of those for me again? My daughter has again grabbed the sudoku of today's newspaper before me, so there remains nothing else for me than this Yngve's dilemma. Sudoku would be more rewarding because you know when it is solved. Besides, Yngve seems to have stepped up to five-star difficulty level in his dilemmas. That is, above my capabilities. Now let's try this Yngre's sudoku. One thing is clear. There are two possibilities to install/arrange the nozzles: 1) in a special chamber at the end of one or more pipe(lines) 2) in cross-pipes (apparently short and with plugged-up ends) attached in one or more pipes (perhaps in the middle of it/them) Then there is the problematic passage: "sen akselin 22 suhteen vastakkaiseen päähän" What does "sen akseli 22" mean? Apparently it is the shaft along (or inside) which the pipe runs (pipes run). That is, its (their) "own" shaft. Although, it is not typical in Finnish to express it in this way and, additionally, you should, to be exact, say 'sen tai niiden' (referring to one or more pipes) instead of just 'sen' (but this inaccuracy is quite acceptable for my "engineering-oriented-don't-care-so-much-of-grammaticality" ear). What does "suhteen" means here? Nothing rational, I must guess. I know that some Finns occasionally use the word 'suhteen' in this kind of purposeless and illogical way. What probably is meant is just "akselin 22 vastakkainen pää" (the other/opposite end of the shaft 22). Then 'vastakkainen pää'. Quite apparently you can install either the chamber in one end of the shaft or the cross-pipes in the other end (maybe the one with the drive). Then Yngre’s question, “Where does __one or more pipes__ belong?” It is (they are) the same pipe(s) mentioned above, that one (those) running along the shaft and having either washing chamber in the end or nozzled cross-pipes (in the middle of pipes) at the other end of the shaft. -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 1 day19 hrs (2006-10-14 14:14:13 GMT) -------------------------------------------------- Logically, in the passage "yhteen tai useampaan putkeen sen akselin 22 suhteen vastakkaiseen päähän" word 'sen' is the genetive attribute of the word 'päähän'. So the question should be about the opposite end of the pipe not the shaft. But later on the next 'sen' definitely have 'pää' as its headword, and so 'sen läheisyyteen' should mean 'near the end of the pipe', which is against the world knowledge. There is the sense to install the nozzles at or near the end of the shaft (which may e.g. rotate sth worth washing), but there shouldn't be any reason to mention that the nozzles are at or near the end of the pipe(s). -------------------------------------------------- Note added at 3 days19 hrs (2006-10-16 13:56:39 GMT) Post-grading -------------------------------------------------- I spent the weekend on the summer cottage. We were enjoying a beautiful autumn weather and admiring exceptionally clear sky in stars. Maybe these circumstances inspired me to clarify all kind of things in life, even Yngve's latest five-star sudoku. It is clear where the "putken pää" with a chamber is. It's where the pipe ends. But where to attach sth at "putkeen sen akselin 22 suhteen vastakkaiseen päähän". What kind of end is there? Actually, there is a double end. There is the end of the shaft and exactly in the same place is the end of the pipe in "akselin suhteen". By this expression the author refers to the run of the pipe(line) which goes along the shaft and it, of course, ends with the shaft, although the pipe itself, as a whole, continues. By saying that the cross-pipes can be attached at the _opposite_ end of the shaft, the author implies that the chamber is to be attached at the other end of the shaft (otherwise "opposite" wouldn't have any meaning). That's all. The last number in the sudoku. What a fulfilment. |
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