valant saisie

English translation: notice operating as a writ of attachment (US: judg(e)ment lien UK: charging order)

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French term or phrase:valant saisie
English translation:notice operating as a writ of attachment (US: judg(e)ment lien UK: charging order)
Entered by: Adrian MM.

20:01 Apr 15, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Automotive / Cars & Trucks
French term or phrase: valant saisie
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Information déclaration valant saisie
tatyana000
Local time: 06:41
notice operating as a writ of attachment (US: judg(e)ment lien UK: charging order)
Explanation:
On the strength of the Discussion Entries and AT's criticism of a 'charging oder' being Anglocentric, I've restated Justin L's 'writ of attachment' as a generic or 'country-neutral' label (usable Transatlantically albeit with a 'valant' stumbling block), plus two jurisdictionally contrasting - the USA vs. the UK - alternatives.

Charging order in the UK is like a court-ordered mortgage e.g. to enforce a US-type judgment lien.

BTW, the process in the UK where the motorist can still drive e.g. a car impounded (Scots law: poinded) by a judgment or execution creditor is called 'walking' not 'driving' possession, routinely used by the UK HMRC - Revenue & Customs, but not always.

UK charging orders can be taken over company shares, houses or *motor vehicles*.
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Summary of answers provided
5 -1notice of seizure
tempusername
3effectively seized
SafeTex
3notice operating as a writ of attachment (US: judg(e)ment lien UK: charging order)
Adrian MM.
4 -3worth seizing
Yassine El Bouknify


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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
déclaration valant saisie
effectively seized


Explanation:
Hello
It's a déclaration valant saisie (see reference) and I think it means that the vehicle is effectively seized even if the owner can still drive it


    https://www.inc-conso.fr/content/la-saisie-des-vehicules
SafeTex
France
Local time: 06:41
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 18

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tomasso: d'accord, " déclaration valant saisie" title lien, lien held, can not sell car , second type "saisie par immobilisation" impound, capture,
5 hrs
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disagree  Eliza Hall: This isn't the term we would use in EN for this.*Added*: if google hits = good translation, we'd be out of a job; it could all be done by machines.
2 days 20 hrs
  -> Googled "effectively seized" and got 25,800 hits !!! *Added* Google hits is NOT MT. You have confused it with Google Translate (MT).
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): -1
déclaration valant saisie
notice of seizure


Explanation:
Synonyms include 'writ of seizure', 'writ of attachment', 'notice of attachment'. They all mean the lender has a right to seize the property (car) or its equivalent value from the debtor for lack of payment. They are formal documents issued by a magistrate or judge, or a tax authority - in this case, relevant to instances of repossession of automobiles with liens against them.

Example sentence(s):
  • Dans les 8 jours qui suivent le dépôt de cette déclaration, le débiteur reçoit une copie de cette déclaration valant saisie. Le document doit indiquer, en caractères très apparents, que les contestations doivent être portées devant le juge de l'

    Reference: http://www.indecosa.cgt.fr/uploads/2018/01/LA%20SAISIE%20DES...
tempusername
Local time: 00:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Eliza Hall: But "writ of attachment" is right. In the context of a car (which is usually what this is about in FR), a "notice of seizure" is tells you that your car was seized & by whom. See discussion.
1 day 17 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -3
worth seizing


Explanation:
https://www.linguee.com/english-french/translation/assets wo...

Yassine El Bouknify
Morocco
Local time: 05:41
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ArabicArabic

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: Simplistically literal and not at all relevant in the context of this document.
6 hrs

disagree  erwan-l: Literal & wrong.
1 day 1 hr

disagree  AllegroTrans: You have totally misunderstood what is going on here
2 days 10 hrs
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2 days 18 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
déclaration valant saisie
notice operating as a writ of attachment (US: judg(e)ment lien UK: charging order)


Explanation:
On the strength of the Discussion Entries and AT's criticism of a 'charging oder' being Anglocentric, I've restated Justin L's 'writ of attachment' as a generic or 'country-neutral' label (usable Transatlantically albeit with a 'valant' stumbling block), plus two jurisdictionally contrasting - the USA vs. the UK - alternatives.

Charging order in the UK is like a court-ordered mortgage e.g. to enforce a US-type judgment lien.

BTW, the process in the UK where the motorist can still drive e.g. a car impounded (Scots law: poinded) by a judgment or execution creditor is called 'walking' not 'driving' possession, routinely used by the UK HMRC - Revenue & Customs, but not always.

UK charging orders can be taken over company shares, houses or *motor vehicles*.

Example sentence(s):
  • www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-is-judgment-lien.html A judgment lien is a type of nonconsensual lien (a lien that attaches to your property without your agreement). It's created when someone wins a lawsuit
  • La saisie déclaration. La saisie immobilisation. Dans les 8 jours qui suivent, le débiteur reçoit une copie de la déclaration valant saisie

    Reference: http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-is-judgment-lien...
    Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charging_order
Adrian MM.
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