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personne éloignée de l'emploi

English translation: people excluded from the labour market

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French term or phrase:personnes éloignées de l'emploi
English translation:people excluded from the labour market
Entered by: Philippa Smith

10:11 Oct 1, 2020
French to English translations [PRO]
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French term or phrase: personne éloignée de l'emploi
"Reconnaît des politiques structurelles d’emploi des personnes éloignées du travail, au coeur du modèle opérationnel de l’entreprise."

Context: A presentation about a company's policies.

=> is this just someone who is unemployed? or long-term unemployed?

I've found the term used the following contexts and am wondering if someone has ever come across a more specific term in English (UK, preferably).

http://www.adeus.org/productions/les-notes-de-ladeus-ndeg125...
https://www.ville-emploi.asso.fr/actionave/favoriser-le-reto...
http://www.maison-emploi-rueil.fr/spip.php?article63
Kallie Translation (X)
United States
people excluded from the labour market
Explanation:
Or "from the work place".
Or "furthest from the labour market":

I think this sums it up well:
"Following a new momentum at EU level on active inclusion with the European Pillar of Social Rights and the Social Investment Package, ESN is organising a seminar (...) focussing on how social services are supporting people furthest from the labour market to find and retain jobs through empowerment and autonomy.
At the seminar, we are discussing a shift in perspective of policy-making, from an activation approach grounded on employment to a more holistic one - where health, education, housing and employment are all considered important factors to improve outcomes for social inclusion of vulnerable people. Target groups include people with disabilities, disadvantaged young people, people with mental illness, single parent households, migrants and refugees, long-term unemployed and homeless people."

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Another good ref: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...
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Philippa Smith
Local time: 09:19
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Summary of answers provided
4 +4people excluded from the labour market
Philippa Smith
4 +1long term unemployed
Tomas Brogan (X)
4 -1Remote Worker
Bokani Hart
3a person who is distanced from the workplace
Lisa Rosengard


  

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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
personne éloignée de l\'emploi
long term unemployed


Explanation:
In the UK, 'long term unemployed' is often used, together with 'those excluded from the labour market', depending on the writer's tone and approach to the subject.

From the context given, I would consider something like 'the company actively seeks to employ those excluded from the labour market'.

Or it could be phrased more positively, e.g. 'the company actively seeks to include members of society who are excluded from the labour market...'

The concept of an 'inclusion policy' may also be helpful.





    https://www.acas.org.uk/equality-policy-template
    https://www.theguardian.com/money/us-money-blog/2014/mar/27/us-long-term-unemployed-ghosts-economy-jobs
Tomas Brogan (X)
Netherlands
Local time: 09:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tony M: I think 'long-term' is the best solution here, as these may be people who are "a long way from working" in a temporal sense; I agree with your differentiation above, I think 'excluded' is risky for various reasons.
15 mins
agree  Johannah Morrison
18 mins
disagree  writeaway: not the most accurate way to go. don't see how/where time enters into it
27 mins
neutral  Thomas Miles: A hyphen is needed, Tomas!
1 day 1 hr
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23 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Remote Worker


Explanation:
See...


    https://www.remoteyear.com/blog/what-is-remote-work
Bokani Hart
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:19
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 7

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: This is nothing to do with teleworking
5 mins
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +4
people excluded from the labour market


Explanation:
Or "from the work place".
Or "furthest from the labour market":

I think this sums it up well:
"Following a new momentum at EU level on active inclusion with the European Pillar of Social Rights and the Social Investment Package, ESN is organising a seminar (...) focussing on how social services are supporting people furthest from the labour market to find and retain jobs through empowerment and autonomy.
At the seminar, we are discussing a shift in perspective of policy-making, from an activation approach grounded on employment to a more holistic one - where health, education, housing and employment are all considered important factors to improve outcomes for social inclusion of vulnerable people. Target groups include people with disabilities, disadvantaged young people, people with mental illness, single parent households, migrants and refugees, long-term unemployed and homeless people."

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Note added at 43 mins (2020-10-01 10:54:54 GMT) Post-grading
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Another good ref: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...


    https://www.esn-eu.org/events/inclusive-activation-social-inclusion-people-furthest-labour-market
Philippa Smith
Local time: 09:19
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 71
Grading comment
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Tomas Brogan (X): I saw this in EU documents, but is 'furthest from the labour market' often used in the UK? Or is it more of a EU neologism that comes from French, Dutch and other non-English languages?
3 mins
  -> Thanks Tomas! Here's a UK govt doc using it: https://www.youthemployment.org.uk/dev/wp-content/uploads/20...
neutral  Tony M: I think this runs the danger of over-interpretation: it could suggest that they were in some way consciously excluded (relevant in your 'inlcusion' context), but doesn't really cover their simply having 'become distanced' due to past circs.
13 mins
  -> That's how "excluded" is used ('becoming distanced') in these sorts of contexts, it never means 'consciously excluded'.
agree  Emmanuella
18 mins
  -> Thanks Emmanuella!
agree  writeaway: Agree. no interpretation, just a translation of what the Fr says.
1 hr
  -> Thanks writeaway!
agree  Michele Fauble
6 hrs
  -> Thanks Michele!
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1 day 11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
a person who is distanced from the workplace


Explanation:
It raises the issue of people being at a distance from their previous familiar place of work with a view to phasing in a return to the same work-place.

"Favoriser le retour à l'emploi, le plan d'action participe de la mise en oeuvre de la politique d'insertion sur le territoire du dispositif à travers une programmation riche et un travail en collaboration avec le réseau des partenaires du secteur."

"To favour the return to work, the action plan participates in the implementation of an integration or inclusion policy on the scheme's territory through an enriched programme and a working collaboration with the partner organisations (or networks) in the sector."



Example sentence(s):
  • "Reconnait des politiques structurelles de l'emploi des personnes éloignées du travail, au coeur du modèle."
  • "It was recognising the structural employment policies regarding people distanced from the work-place, at the centre of the model."

    https://www.ville-emploi.asso.fr/actionave/favoriser-le-retour-a-lemploi-des-personnes-eloignees-de-lemploi/
Lisa Rosengard
United Kingdom
Local time: 08:19
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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