communication sociale et management info

English translation: Organisational communication / Social communication and information management

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French term or phrase:	communication sociale et management info
English translation:	Organisational communication / Social communication and information management
Entered by:	Lara Barnett

11:25 Oct 29, 2020

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French term or phrase: communication sociale et management info

This is from the title of a business Communication MASTERS course from Lumiere-Lyon-2 University in France.

At the top of this page of the transcript (which covers semesters 3 and 4) it reads:

Etage: M2 Com. des Organisations / Com. Sociale & management info (LC521)

Does the word "info" relate to IT studies, so it is like digital media marketing? or is this regarding something else?

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Organisational communication / Social communication and information management

Explanation:
It's a bit difficult to put it succinctly but this is my best go!

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You could call 'interpersonal communication' as this covers a wide range - person to person, person to groups, within groups, and can be informative and participatory. However, as this course not only relates to business but also at other organisations such as public bodies and NGOs, I don't think you could be as specific as to call it 'business communications'.

This article describes it as follows:- "Interpersonal communication is a soft skill that encompasses how well an individual communicates with others. This skill set, also referred to as “people skills” or “social skills,” is one of the most important for success in the workplace. Communication can take place both verbally and nonverbally, either in person or through digital means such as email or instant messaging."

https://online.csp.edu/blog/business/interpersonal-communica...

This next one describes interpersonal communication in business as "The process of interpersonal communication in business involves sending and receiving messages with colleagues, managers, partners, customers and other business stakeholders. Effective interpersonal communication happens when the message is understood as it was intended."

https://bizfluent.com/about-6460060-importance-interpersonal...

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Althea Draper
United Kingdom

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Organisational communication / Social communication and information management

Althea Draper

Discussion entries: 16

Suzie Withers

United Kingdom

10:44 Oct 30, 2020

I must admit, I haven't heard the term "social communication", it doesn't seem to be used much in UK English. I think "Communication studies" or "Communication and media studies" is probably sufficient and broad enough to cover all kinds of communication. But you still need to mention the information management aspect separately I think:

https://www.topuniversities.com/courses/communication-studie...

Lara Barnett

United Kingdom

ASKER

@ Althea

20:17 Oct 29, 2020

Thanks. Great info, very appreciated. Are you going to post a final suggestion as an answer?

Althea Draper

United Kingdom

19:12 Oct 29, 2020

It's much more than PR. If you read the whole thing, you'll see that the course is pretty much about organizational communication (for a definition, see https://courses.lumenlearning.com/introductiontocommunicatio... ). The course teaches this through looking at social communication within and between organisations and other entities (e.g. in HR settings, marketing, conflict management), and through the communication of information (e.g. design and production of written and audiovisual materials and information management as Emmanuella pointed out). It's not limited to PR or IT as it goes way beyond that, and it addresses both business and other organisations such as public authorities and NGOs.

Lara Barnett

United Kingdom

ASKER

@ Althea (& Phil ??) - Public Relations vs Comm..

17:15 Oct 29, 2020

Ok. So to me this sounds like what UK tends to call "corporate PR" or maybe "company PR"..??? We have always said public relations, and then "communications" is now used very specifically for certain areas like media or telecoms. Although if the first option includes internal communication, it's not exactly the same I guess.
Could this be a better term for it?

philgoddard

United States

Althea

16:26 Oct 29, 2020

You should put that as an answer. It makes more sense to look at the French than to try and find a translation, which could be wrong anyway.

Althea Draper

United Kingdom

16:17 Oct 29, 2020

If this is the same course, then I would say so. From the document, there are two options within the course:-
"L’option 1 vise ainsi à former des étudiantes capables de remplir différentes missions qui recoupent ce que l’on appelle habituellement la communication d’entreprise. Ils/elles pourront ensuite évoluer soit dans des directions de la communication et des ressources humaines au sein d’entreprises privées, soit dans des agences spécialisées dans la communication. L’objectif de l’option 2 est de former des spécialistes de la communication appliquée au secteur des collectivités territoriales et des associations subventionnées par les pouvoirs publics."
Also, when you look at the former students' jobs, it gives that impression too.

Lara Barnett

United Kingdom

ASKER

@ Althea

15:49 Oct 29, 2020

So the "communication sociale" part reflects COMPANY communication rather than SOCIAL media type stuff, right?

Althea Draper

United Kingdom

15:31 Oct 29, 2020

This course, 'Communication sociale et management de l’information dans les organisations' which is run by Université Lumière Lyon 2 may be along similar lines to the one you describe. It seems to be more about communicating information within corporations or public bodies and about how they communicate with other bodies and the public. It doesn't come across as being about IT communication other than it gives some training on eg powerpoint type presentations.

https://icom.univ-lyon2.fr/medias/fichier/icom-master-commun...

Lara Barnett

United Kingdom

ASKER

@ Allegro Trans

12:31 Oct 29, 2020

I have searched online, as I normally do for educational courses, but I cannot find the English page for this course. There are English pages, but they do not give the specific course names in English. I have also searched the module code (LC521), but have found nothing.
Would it not be rather clear that this is the reason I have posted my question!
Thank you for your advice all the same.

AllegroTrans

United Kingdom

And maybe

12:14 Oct 29, 2020

The Lumiere-Lyon-2 University website has the name of the course in English. Many French universities do so as they want to attract UK and American sudents. Worth checking.

Emmanuella

Italy

11:59 Oct 29, 2020

You may find the information in the document

Suzie Withers

United Kingdom

11:52 Oct 29, 2020

There is also "management information", which is data about how the business or organisation is performing that informs decision-making

Suzie Withers

United Kingdom

11:49 Oct 29, 2020

In Emmanuella's reference, it seems to refer to "management de l'information", which would suggest "Information Management", which is a concept in English, but not sure how relevant it is to communication studies...

Emmanuella

Italy

11:48 Oct 29, 2020

According to me it concerns ' information management ' and not 'data management'

Lara Barnett

United Kingdom

ASKER

@ Emmanuella

11:42 Oct 29, 2020

Thank you for the info, but does the "information" component mean "IT"? Or otherwise?

Emmanuella

Italy

11:35 Oct 29, 2020

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https:/...

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Com. des Organisations / Com. Sociale & management info

Organisational communication / Social communication and information management

Althea Draper
United Kingdom
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Notes to answerer

Asker: Thanks for posting this answer. Could you just explain the use of "social" here though? I thought you were saying that the French use of "sociale" regarded business.

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