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la non-localisation des activités

English translation: the absence of geographical ties for some activities

13:19 May 16, 2017
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Computers: Systems, Networks / digital technologies
French term or phrase: la non-localisation des activités
Context: a report giving policy recommendations regarding the digital transition and its economic impacts; a section regarding the taxation of such activities.

Sentence: "L’économie numérique présente quatre spécificités (la non-localisation des activités, le rôle central des plateformes et plus généralement des modèles économiques multi-faces, l’importance des effets de réseau et l’exploitation des données) qui induisent des modifications profondes dans la répartition de la valeur dans la chaine de production et la localisation de cette valeur."


If I understand correctly, "la non-localisation des activités" refers to the fact that most activities related to this sector take place in the "cloud". I'm not sure how this would best be rendered in (UK) English however, any suggestions?

Thanks for your help!
Una D.
France
Local time: 03:10
English translation:the absence of geographical ties for some activities
Explanation:
or

the geographical detachment of

the geographical non-attachment

the lack of geographical constraints


first point:

the ST doesn't say that any business as a whole is "non-localisé"

anyway that simply is not happening in the Real Word of any version!
Any business would have to be localised at least regarding the jurisdiction in which it's registered, clients for sure are also "localised", if the business is dealing with tangible goods there must be a warehouse involved localised somewhere on solid ground in some defined location (not in any kind of "cloud") ...

"la non-localisation" is only about some of the "activities / operational components" of a business operating over the Net - data for example could be stored absolutely anywhere where there is a connection to the Web - and not necessarily in one location - it could be spread in small bits all over the world, same as the processing of data could be done in some other location or locations anywhere where there is a link to the Web.
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Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:10
Grading comment
thanks, I ended up using "lack of geographical constraints"
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +2business is independent of geographical location
B D Finch
4the non-localisation of business
philgoddard
4the absence of geographical ties for some activities
Daryo
4 -1Digitalisation of services
Thierry Martial NIANGORAN


  

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41 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the non-localisation of business


Explanation:
If there's an exact, literal equivalent that makes perfect sense in English, you should use it. But if for some reason you don't like that, you could say something like "absence of geographical constraints/boundaries".

This is not specifically about the cloud, though that is one aspect of it.

philgoddard
United States
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 6
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, I really wasn't sure whether we'd say "non-localised" in English, it sounded a bit odd to me and I didn't find many examples, but I appreciate the input and I like the other options you mentioned too.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Daryo: activités = business ?
18 hrs
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): -1
Digitalisation of services


Explanation:
the digital economy is characterised by the digitalisation of many products and services and the use of the internet and other networks to support economic activities. the traditional marketplace shifts to a virtual marketspace.


    Reference: http://www.newtimes.co.rw/section/article/2014-08-21/77800/
    Reference: http://dspace.uni.lodz.pl:8080/xmlui/bitstream/handle/11089/...
Thierry Martial NIANGORAN
Cote D'ivoire
Local time: 01:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench, Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for the input!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  B D Finch: How does that translate the Asker's source term?
4 hrs
disagree  Daryo: there are some very loose connections, but that's nowhere near the exact meaning // just because it's a term used in the same field doesn't make it the right term.
16 hrs
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6 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
business is independent of geographical location


Explanation:
I'd avoid using the term "localisation", because this has such a strong connection with language localisation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_localisation). This "non-localisation" seems to be about geographical location.

https://www.entrepreneur.com/article/28702626
- Others operate on an off-site or virtual basis, remotely serving start-up businesses independent of geographical location.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=1848822871
Lihui Wang, ‎Andrew Yeh Ching Nee - 2009 - ‎Technology & Engineering
Trading on the Internet has several advantages, such as: • It is independent of geographical location. • Business settlement will be in shorter time with lower ...

https://www.enterpriseinnovation.net/article/look-estonias-d... Jan 2017 - It offers digital nomads the ease of running a business in a digital and transparent environment, independent of geographical location.

B D Finch
France
Local time: 03:10
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 24
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks for the input, it was helpful!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Mair A-W (PhD)
5 mins
  -> Thanks Mair
neutral  Daryo: activités = business ?
13 hrs
  -> Sometimes. I think that you are confusing "a business" with "business" in the sense of "business activities". It is the latter that is relevant to my answer.
agree  Yvonne Gallagher
29 days
  -> Thanks Gallagy.
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19 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
the absence of geographical ties for some activities


Explanation:
or

the geographical detachment of

the geographical non-attachment

the lack of geographical constraints


first point:

the ST doesn't say that any business as a whole is "non-localisé"

anyway that simply is not happening in the Real Word of any version!
Any business would have to be localised at least regarding the jurisdiction in which it's registered, clients for sure are also "localised", if the business is dealing with tangible goods there must be a warehouse involved localised somewhere on solid ground in some defined location (not in any kind of "cloud") ...

"la non-localisation" is only about some of the "activities / operational components" of a business operating over the Net - data for example could be stored absolutely anywhere where there is a connection to the Web - and not necessarily in one location - it could be spread in small bits all over the world, same as the processing of data could be done in some other location or locations anywhere where there is a link to the Web.

Daryo
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in SerbianSerbian, Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 11
Grading comment
thanks, I ended up using "lack of geographical constraints"

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Mair A-W (PhD): business can refer to "business being done", it doesn't have to be the noun of "a business"
1 hr
  -> you could stretch the meaning of words in many ways, but when it's about "L’économie numérique" using "business" will not associate to some "activité" within an enterprise, it would associate to the whole of the enterprise that MUST be located somewhere!
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