4e lieu

06:28 Apr 23, 2015
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French to English translations [PRO]
Media / Multimedia / Cultural facilities
French term or phrase: 4e lieu
In a press pack about a new cultural centre, listing the facilities included. Context: "ce pôle culturel conçu par l’agence parisienne XXXX associe une médiathèque, un cinéma d’art et d’essai, un espace numérique et un **4e lieu**". What is "4e lieu"? Any help gratefully received.
Nicky Over
United Kingdom
Local time: 22:16


Summary of answers provided
4 +54th Place/ Fourth Place
Catharine Cellier-Smart
4a 4th space
SylvieLH


Discussion entries: 4





  

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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
a 4th space


Explanation:
I think this cultural centre is divided in 4 parts, spaces, sectors, departments.
1) médiathèque
2) cinéma art et essai
3) espace numérique
4) and a fourth space dedicated to another cultural activity which is not described nor named in your question.

SylvieLH
France
Local time: 23:16
Native speaker of: French
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks - I thought it might have a specific meaning!

Asker: Thanks very much - your answer helped but I did not use it directly, so did not award points.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Tony M: No, here it DOES have a specific meaning, as others have explained.
47 mins

agree  Charles Davis: This is to compensate for Tony's disagree, which I think is unjustified. Although quatrième lieu can mean something specific, and I think it probably does here, we can't be certain, so your generic suggestion could be right.
54 mins

neutral  Ghyslaine LE NAGARD: I believe they would have used "4e espace" it if were just a 4th space as in "un espace numérique" but can't be sure.
1 hr
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45 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
4th Place/ Fourth Place


Explanation:
It does have a specific meaning, see:

"La bibliothèque quatrième lieu est un espace physique et/ou en ligne qui présente un nouveau modèle de circulation des savoirs. Autour du livre, l’objectif de ce projet expérimental et innovant est de proposer une nouvelle façon de concevoir et pratiquer le partage de savoirs à l’aide des outils du Web 2.0, notamment à travers une bibliothèque 4e lieu en ligne définie par un programme participatif d’activités autour du livre, mis à jour annuellement."
I-Garamond : La Bibliothèque 4e lieu 2014-2015
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVbgqunfJXc

T is for Training 53: Creating the 4th Place: A Community Gathering Place for (Social) Learning
http://tisfortraining.wordpress.com/2010/08/13/t-is-for-trai...



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See also:

L'objectif de ce cours en ligne, gratuit et ouvert à tous, est de permettre à chaque participant de concevoir un environnement éducatif, patrimonial ou culturel 4e lieu en ligne.
"Le 4e lieu en ligne est un modèle de circulation des savoirs en contexte numérique : celui-ci met au centre la facilitation de l'accès au savoir, pour tous, notamment par l'utilisation d'outils connectés."
http://www.greta.ac-clermont.fr/index.php?option=com_content...

and

Présentation du concept de bibliothèque 4e lieu
http://prezi.com/7ub0toi78frl/copy-of-i-garamond-soutenance-...

and

"What seems to be ripe for development now is a complementary fourth place: a community gathering place for social learning."
Community, Collaboration, and Learning: Time for the Fourth Place
https://buildingcreativebridges.wordpress.com/2010/08/15/com...

Planning & Realizing the "Fourth Place"
http://hurstassociates.blogspot.com/2011/03/cil2011-planning...

Catharine Cellier-Smart
Reunion
Local time: 02:16
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks very much - your answer helped but I did not use it directly, so did not award points.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Charles Davis
6 mins
  -> Thank you Charles

agree  Tony M
14 mins
  -> Thank you Tony

agree  Ghyslaine LE NAGARD
36 mins
  -> Thank you Ghyslaine

agree  Philippa Smith
49 mins
  -> Thank you Philippa

agree  Lara Barnett
4 days
  -> Thanks Lara
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