psalmodieur

English translation: Psalmodist

16:30 Nov 7, 2016
French to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Religion / Islamic culture
French term or phrase: psalmodieur
Context: a report about religious practices in contemporary France aimed at the general public.

Sentence: "Durant le mois du Ramadan, la France accueille également 299 psalmodieurs et récitateurs dans le cadre d’accords bilatéraux passés notamment avec le Royaume du Maroc et l’Algérie."

I'd like to know what the correct term is in English for this, I gather it is someone who sings Islamic chants or psalmodies, as opposed to the "récitateur" who just recites psalms.

If you have links to any good online glossaries of religious/Islamic FREN terminology that would be a great - I'm on the lookout in general! :-)

Thanks for your help!
Una D.
France
Local time: 14:24
English translation:Psalmodist
Explanation:
Seems like a reasonable option. And would work with reciters for 'récitateurs' in the sentence.

This would be my take on it, WITHOUT any specific knowledge of Islam... I hope someone can provide you with a more educated answer.



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Guillaume Brownlie Pacteau
France
Local time: 14:24
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Summary of answers provided
4Cantor / Kantor
Shabelula
4Qawwali singer / cantor
B D Finch
2Psalmodist
Guillaume Brownlie Pacteau


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Psalmodist


Explanation:
Seems like a reasonable option. And would work with reciters for 'récitateurs' in the sentence.

This would be my take on it, WITHOUT any specific knowledge of Islam... I hope someone can provide you with a more educated answer.



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    Reference: http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/psalmody
    Reference: http://thequranreciters.com/home
Guillaume Brownlie Pacteau
France
Local time: 14:24
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Cantor / Kantor


Explanation:
it's Cantor in Jewish functions
it could be cantor as well for Muslims

we can check online

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according to Wiki, psalms and functions are held by an officing "imam"

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clergy

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well actually in Hebrew it's Chazan but the English for it is Kantor/Cantor

Shabelula
Italy
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Qawwali singer / cantor


Explanation:
But, there seems to be some difference between sources as to whether singing can occur in the context of prayer:

worship.calvin.edu/.../singing-the-psalms-creates-christian-muslim-bonds...7 Jan 2013 - Although Muslims don't sing psalms in public worship, many love attending concerts and parties with psalms in qawwali, a Muslim praise-song ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pakistani_qawwali_sing... article contains the list of past and present Qawwali singers that are based in Pakistan. Fateh Ali Khan and Mubarik Ali Khan Ustad Bakhshi Salamat ...

mitrylawyers.tumblr.com/.../rick-mitry-represented-sheikh-mohamed-el-...Rick Mitry represented Sheikh Mohamed El-Khaly, a visiting Muslim cantor who came to Australia from Egypt to lead prayers during the holy month of Ramadan.

Re the above, it seems rather strange for a cantor to be leading muslim prayers, perhaps he was doing so in a different capacity.

https://www.womex.com/virtual/kirkelig_as/sondre_bratland...... a journey to Lahore in Pakistan Norwegian folksinger Sondre Bratland met the renowned Qawwali singer Javed Bashir. Together they performed psalms and ...




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http://www.academia.edu/9575349/Ph.D._Thesis_-_Singing_as_on...
However, a Qawwali singer chooses songs 'in accordance with the spiritual needs ... psalm texts are set to fixed melodic formulas known as psalm tones

B D Finch
France
Local time: 14:24
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