bords (here)

English translation: do a few runs

16:09 Aug 28, 2018
French to English translations [PRO]
Sports / Fitness / Recreation / Kitesurfing
French term or phrase: bords (here)
In text from a tourism website about watersports. Talking about tandem kitesurfing. Context: "A la fin de la session au bout de laquelle j’arrivais déjà à faire quelques « bords », je n’ai eu qu’une seule envie : y retourner et y arriver tout seul !" I presume this is "jumps"? Just wanted to check. Thanks for any help.
Nicky Over
United Kingdom
Local time: 02:42
English translation:do a few runs
Explanation:
Strictly speaking a "bord", "tirer des bords" are all describing an upwind point of sail, as Kevin has pointed out, as being "to tack". More familiarly though, when you are starting out, as is the case here, "faire quelques bords", is being used less formally and basically means "to do a few runs". Note that we're not talking about speed runs and record attempts, here, but the first few runs you'll be jumping for joy about. It boils down to managing to go back and forth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bslfd5indaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcriB9nt-yg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LGU-3fyTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyj7Lrk1Jds

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You might like to do a search with"faire des runs". Try with François Gabart. He kitesurfs and sails. Compare then with Alex Thomson, a UK sailor who amis kitesurfs. Both use the term "run", although they are both good. I've done interpreting at press conferences where both have spoken about kitesurfing.

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Sorry about my oddly expressed additional note. I was on my telephone. I pressed "enter" without meaning to. Still, you probably get the gist. :-)
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 03:42
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Thanks very much for your help.
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Summary of answers provided
5 +2do a few runs
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
5tack
Emmanuel Sombsthay
5sailing (or surfing)
Marion Goodall
3tacking
Kevin Oheix
2edging
Philippa Smith
Summary of reference entries provided
Not "jumps"
B D Finch
From a user manual
Alison MacG

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52 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5
edging


Explanation:
Don't know kitesurfing vocab at all, but had a look, wondered about "tacking" ("tirer des bords" in sailing) and "doing runs", then plumped for "edging" going by hits...but happy to be corrected by an expert!

Example sentence(s):
  • "Still learning every day but seem to come across an on going issue with edging. When I get to my feet and go with the kite for a bit for speed and then start to edge I find my boarding is skimming side ways @ 180 degrees and not so much edging..."

    https://www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Edging-tips?page=1
Philippa Smith
Local time: 03:42
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
tacking


Explanation:
For example, "tirer des bords" refers to "tacking"

Tirer des bords
Naviguer en virant de bord pour optimiser la vitesse.

tack - virement de bord
https://www.kitesurf.boutique/actus/tuto-strapless-le-tack-o...

"A kitesurfing tack is performed by turning your board into the wind to turn around. It can be very useful as you can gain added ground when performing this move quickly and correctly"
http://reostevens.com/kitesurfing-tips-tutorials/kitesurfboa...

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"Vous pouvez remonter au vent à 45 degrés par rapport à la direction du vent, puis vous retourner et naviguer à 45 degrés sous le vent, sur votre chemin du retour. On appelle cela le « virement de bord ou tacking », ce qui vous permettra de naviguer au vent.

Comment remonter au vent :

"2. Border. Orientez la planche dans la direction vers laquelle vous voulez vous diriger, plutôt que de laisser l’aile vous entraîner directement au portant. La planche doit former un angle de 45 degrés ou plus par rapport à l’eau".
http://www.voiledetraction.fr/kitesurf/comment-fonctionne-le...

Kevin Oheix
France
Local time: 03:42
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
tack


Explanation:
to make a tack / to tack = faire un bord / tirer un bord

An act of changing course by turning a boat's head into and through the wind, so as to bring the wind on the opposite side.


    https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/tack
Emmanuel Sombsthay
France
Local time: 03:42
Native speaker of: French
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5 peer agreement (net): +2
faire quelques bords
do a few runs


Explanation:
Strictly speaking a "bord", "tirer des bords" are all describing an upwind point of sail, as Kevin has pointed out, as being "to tack". More familiarly though, when you are starting out, as is the case here, "faire quelques bords", is being used less formally and basically means "to do a few runs". Note that we're not talking about speed runs and record attempts, here, but the first few runs you'll be jumping for joy about. It boils down to managing to go back and forth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bslfd5indaI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcriB9nt-yg

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Note added at 1 hr (2018-08-28 17:48:35 GMT)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8LGU-3fyTM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyj7Lrk1Jds

etc.

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Note added at 3 hrs (2018-08-28 20:08:22 GMT)
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You might like to do a search with"faire des runs". Try with François Gabart. He kitesurfs and sails. Compare then with Alex Thomson, a UK sailor who amis kitesurfs. Both use the term "run", although they are both good. I've done interpreting at press conferences where both have spoken about kitesurfing.

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Note added at 3 days 17 hrs (2018-09-01 10:02:52 GMT)
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Sorry about my oddly expressed additional note. I was on my telephone. I pressed "enter" without meaning to. Still, you probably get the gist. :-)

Nikki Scott-Despaigne
Local time: 03:42
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 21
Grading comment
Thanks very much for your help.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  B D Finch: That sounds convincing.
4 hrs

agree  Alison MacG
16 hrs
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18 days   confidence: Answerer confidence 5/5
sailing (or surfing)


Explanation:
In your sentence, it would be: "and the possibility to sail for several Kilometers"

L'action de "tirer des bords" est appelée "tacking" mais l'action de rester sur le même bord est tout simplement "sailing" ie naviguer. Kite surfers utilisent peut être aussi "surfing" au lieu de sailing.


Example sentence(s):
  • I went kiting today and sailed downwind for a while before having to tack.
Marion Goodall
Ireland
Local time: 02:42
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Reference comments


25 mins peer agreement (net): +1
Reference: Not "jumps"

Reference information:
Découvrez et lisez des avis récents sur le spot kitesurf à Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur | Vous rêvez de faire du kite avec de la place, sans digue, et la possibilité de faire des bords de plusieurs km ? ce spot est fait pour vous.
https://sportihome.com/s/spot/kitesurf/Saintes-Maries-de-la-...

C'est quand même quelque chose de faire des bords de 10 kilomètres, ... Le Meilleur du Kitesurf sur VagueEtVent.com www.vagueetvent.com Promotions sur tout le ...
kiteboarder-mag.com/news-defi-kite-2015-ils-reviendront

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"Bord (tirer un bord) ~ trajet rectiligne sans virer."
https://www.kitesurf.fr/viewtopic_491.html

Perhaps it just means a trip?


    https://sportihome.com/s/spot/kitesurf/Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer-...
B D Finch
France
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 37

Peer comments on this reference comment (and responses from the reference poster)
agree  Alison MacG: Bord (tirer un bord) : trajet rectiligne sans virer. On dit aussi run. http://kitesurfgaelle.blogspot.com/
17 hrs
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17 hrs
Reference: From a user manual

Reference information:
First white caps appear; make your first runs.
Brise modérée et premiers « moutons » idéal pour tracer vos premiers bords.
https://www.f-one.world/app/uploads/2018/08/F_ONE_TRUST_2015...

Alison MacG
United Kingdom
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PRO pts in category: 36
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