getrost immer mit gegenwaertigem Geiste

English translation: (his spirit at ease) and with full presence of mind

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German term or phrase:getrost immer mit gegenwaertigem Geiste
English translation:(his spirit at ease) and with full presence of mind
Entered by: Timoshka

19:53 Mar 19, 2012
German to English translations [PRO]
Genealogy
German term or phrase: getrost immer mit gegenwaertigem Geiste
This comes from an old (1789) entry in the church registers, concerning the death of a prominent citizen: "Auf seinem Krankenlager hat er jeder Zeit Geduld Muth Standhaftigkeit und bewundernswuerdige Geistes Kraeffte und Vertrauen auf Gott und seinen Tod ohne Furcht getrost immer mit gegenwaertigem Geiste erwartet."
Timoshka
Local time: 05:09
(his spirit at ease) and with full presence of mind
Explanation:
mit gegenwärtigem Geiste= "fully aware" ( vgl. "geistesgegenwärtig")

Topos der Gegenüberstellung von praesenti corpore (mit gegenwärtigem Leibe) - praesenti animo
(mit gegenwärtigem Geist)
http://tiny.cc/crrfbw

Beliebte Formulierung in einer bestimmten historischen Epoche:
z.B.
„und vollendete, unter der äußersten Schwachheit seines Körpers, mit gegenwärtigem Geist….“
http://tiny.cc/porfbw

example from a contemporary obituary
He knew he was dying, and he did it with full presence of mind.
http://theroyaltrophy.com/site_2012/?p=1490

…and from a historical ob.:
“He died with a clear and full presence of mind”
http://tiny.cc/wdsfbw

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Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 03:09
Grading comment
Vielen Dank!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +3in good cheer and in full command of his senses
Wendy Streitparth
3 +1(his spirit at ease) and with full presence of mind
Johanna Timm, PhD


Discussion entries: 8





  

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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
(his spirit at ease) and with full presence of mind


Explanation:
mit gegenwärtigem Geiste= "fully aware" ( vgl. "geistesgegenwärtig")

Topos der Gegenüberstellung von praesenti corpore (mit gegenwärtigem Leibe) - praesenti animo
(mit gegenwärtigem Geist)
http://tiny.cc/crrfbw

Beliebte Formulierung in einer bestimmten historischen Epoche:
z.B.
„und vollendete, unter der äußersten Schwachheit seines Körpers, mit gegenwärtigem Geist….“
http://tiny.cc/porfbw

example from a contemporary obituary
He knew he was dying, and he did it with full presence of mind.
http://theroyaltrophy.com/site_2012/?p=1490

…and from a historical ob.:
“He died with a clear and full presence of mind”
http://tiny.cc/wdsfbw



Johanna Timm, PhD
Canada
Local time: 03:09
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 4
Grading comment
Vielen Dank!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Kirsten Bodart: It has to do with the fact that one cannot receive the last rights if one's mind is not conscious. Nothing to do with senses.
16 hrs
  -> right, it's about the mind; I also like "confidently" that you suggested in the discussion box for "getrost"
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12 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
in good cheer and in full command of his senses


Explanation:
Since Montaigne wants to critique the pretensions of the philosophers’ ability to face
dying and death in good cheer

http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/org/conference/2003/krom.pdf

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Note added at 2 days18 hrs (2012-03-22 14:52:43 GMT) Post-grading
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@ Kirsten: I fail to detect any inference as to the man's confession.

Wendy Streitparth
Germany
Local time: 11:09
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Helen Shiner: A much better formulation.
1 hr
  -> Thanks, Helen.

agree  Rebecca Garber
6 hrs
  -> Thank you Rebecca

agree  Lancashireman: Sorry not to have seen this Q earlier.
1 day 12 hrs
  -> Thanks, Andrew. Appreciated just the same - or even more!
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