werthaft

English translation: valuative/normative or Aristotelian goodness

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German term or phrase:werthaft
English translation:valuative/normative or Aristotelian goodness
Entered by: Ramey Rieger (X)

14:05 Sep 11, 2018
German to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Philosophy / Martha Nussbaum on human nature (dissertation)
German term or phrase: werthaft
Greetings Colleagues, it's been a while and I hope you're all doing well. This sentence is driving me up the wall for several reasons. But since I can only ask one term at a time, I'll go with the one I can't seem to find in a reliable context.

Here is the source text:
Martha Nussbaum hat nie einen ethischen Naturalismus vertreten. Unabhängig davon, wie genau ein ethischer Naturalismus interpretiert wird, muss diese Aussage am Anfang der Untersuchung des Verhältnisses von Nussbaums Ethik und Themen des ethischen Naturalismus stehen. Dies gilt insbesondere auch dann, wenn ein ethischer Naturalismus nicht mit der These identifiziert wird, moralische Eigenschaften seien durch naturwissenschaftlich erklärte Eigenschaften zu ersetzen, sondern eine neo-aristotelisch konzipierte werthafte Naturvorstellung ebenfalls dem ethischen Naturalismus zugerechnet wird.

My translation thus far:
Martha Nussbaum never avouched ethical naturalism. This statement must be declared at the onset when investigating the relations of Nussbaum’s ethic and ethical naturalism themes, regardless of how differentiated ethical naturalism is interpreted. This is particularly true when an ethical naturalism interpretation does not encompass the assertion that moral attributes are to be supplanted by scientifically explained attributes, but rather ascribes to a neo-Aristotelian ...

I would deeply appreciate your assistance!
Ramey Rieger (X)
Germany
Local time: 07:57
valuative
Explanation:
... valuative concept of nature ...


valuative (Adjective)
Of or relating to values or valuation; not factual or descriptive.
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NGK
United States
Local time: 01:57
Grading comment
Sorry I took so long to close this question. To tell the truth, I used 'natural goodness' as Björn suggested but did not post as a suggestion. Thus, points go to majority rule. Thank you all for your valuable assistance!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +2valuative
NGK
3 +1normative (norm-creating)
Michael Martin, MA


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valuative


Explanation:
... valuative concept of nature ...


valuative (Adjective)
Of or relating to values or valuation; not factual or descriptive.


    https://www.definitions.net/definition/valuative
NGK
United States
Local time: 01:57
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in GermanGerman
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Sorry I took so long to close this question. To tell the truth, I used 'natural goodness' as Björn suggested but did not post as a suggestion. Thus, points go to majority rule. Thank you all for your valuable assistance!
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thank you Ntext, that's worth a gander.


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Steffen Walter: I'd have thought of "value-based", too.
2 hrs

agree  Anne Schulz: A search of "werthaft"+"valuative" yields few, but convinicing hits equating both terms.
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1 hr   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
normative (norm-creating)


Explanation:
You can't solve this at the level of isolated word meanings or grammar. It would be more fruitful here to find out more about the neo-Aristotelian conception of nature.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2018-09-11 16:50:18 GMT)
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Hi Ramey, I am far from being an expert myself but when I stumbled across the following link, that set me off to look into this a bit more. Hopefully, somebody will find the time to dig a little further to confirm or refute.

"As far as I can see, then, Sandel’s “case” relies on a specific conception of
nature, one which generates norms. This is precisely in line with Aristotle’s
teleological thinking." http://people.bu.edu/roochnik/documents/Neo-Aristotelianism....

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Note added at 7 hrs (2018-09-11 21:33:59 GMT)
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Something like this might work:

"This applies in particular when we're careful not to equate a form of ethical naturalism with the assertion that moral attributes should be replaced by scientifically explained attributes, but rather consider a normative conception of nature in the neo-Aristotelian vein to be a form of ethical naturalism."

Michael Martin, MA
United States
Local time: 02:57
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Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 28
Notes to answerer
Asker: Neo-Aristotelianism is a school of literary and rhetorical criticism, "A view of literature and criticism which takes a pluralistic attitude toward the history of literature and seeks to view literary works and critical theories intrinsically" Since this has little to do with Martha Nussbaum's concept of human nature or ethical naturalism, I have only the words to go on. I'll take the college course later. Thanks for your suggestion.

Asker: By the way, can you give me some context examples of your suggestion? that would certainly help!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Björn Vrooman: @Ramey Come to think about it: This is close enough. @Michael I agree with your first sentence but certainly not with your last one (e.g., wrong register by a mile and you changed the meaning). Glossary entry should be about werthafte Naturvorstellung.
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