abziehen

English translation: bully

03:19 Sep 14, 2009
German to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Slang
German term or phrase: abziehen
Term occurs twice in a screenplay I'm translating:
"Die ziehen hier ständig Leute ab."
"Guck’ Dir doch die Schwachköpfe an, die in der Schule ihre Klassenkameraden abziehen und vor niemandem Respekt haben ..."

This is the meaning: ABZIEHEN IST MODERNER JUGENDSLANG. JUGENDLICHE FANGEN ANDERE JUGENDLICHE AB UND ERPRESSEN VON IHNEN UNTER ANDROHUNG KÖRPERLICHER GEWALT ENTWEDER BARGELD ODER KLEIDUNGSSTÜCKE ODER MOBILTELEFONE ODER ANDERES.

Can anyone think of a US English equivalent for this?
NGK
United States
Local time: 08:30
English translation:bully
Explanation:
I would say ...

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The definition of a bully is an over-bearing, controlling person who intimidates and tyrannizes another person for a particular or unidentified reason. ...
camps.atrc.utoronto.ca/Sarah/Sarah/SD2003/Bullying.htm

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-09-14 03:41:27 GMT)
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maybe: strong arm

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Note added at 22 mins (2009-09-14 03:42:38 GMT)
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Bully? Strong-arm? Inspire (with fear)? It strikes me this line might make a good description of Dylan's use of language. He bullies the language into ...
groups.google.com/group/rec.music.../135af30011a86220 - Cached - Similar

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Note added at 29 mins (2009-09-14 03:49:49 GMT)
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alternatives: browbeat, bulldoze
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David Hollywood
Local time: 10:30
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Summary of answers provided
4 +5bully
David Hollywood
3 +2rip off
Veronika McLaren
4to shake down
Kim Metzger


  

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8 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
to shake down


Explanation:
One possibility.

Shakedown
1. extortion, as by blackmail or threats of violence.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shake down

Chapter 1: Lessons in intimidation.

The "Milk Money Shakedown" was typical of school bullies nationwide but
Wanda's version would define the technique. First off, Wanda was almost always shadowed by her two friends Rhonda and Nona. Two girls that shared a common heartbreak, both had aspirations of Olympic gymnastics and an injury cut their career short Rhonda never cared that her name sounded similar to Wanda or that there was an occasional mix-up. Rhonda idolized Wanda and liked being mistaken for her. At school the other students would refer to these two as the "bullies-in-training". They were there to watch Wanda in action, back up any story she told, and, rumor has it, they would sometimes hold Wanda's victims for some brutal sucker punches inflicted by Wanda. The shakedown was perfectly executed one Spring Morning.
http://www.thevalkyrie.com/stories/harlequin/thebullyacademy...


Kim Metzger
Mexico
Local time: 07:30
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 20

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Lonnie Legg: has a similar "feel"--except I've only ever heard it used with regard to adults (criminals, organized abuse of power, etc.) (www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shake down)
6 days
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2 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
bully


Explanation:
I would say ...

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Note added at 6 mins (2009-09-14 03:26:23 GMT)
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The definition of a bully is an over-bearing, controlling person who intimidates and tyrannizes another person for a particular or unidentified reason. ...
camps.atrc.utoronto.ca/Sarah/Sarah/SD2003/Bullying.htm

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Note added at 21 mins (2009-09-14 03:41:27 GMT)
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maybe: strong arm

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Note added at 22 mins (2009-09-14 03:42:38 GMT)
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Bully? Strong-arm? Inspire (with fear)? It strikes me this line might make a good description of Dylan's use of language. He bullies the language into ...
groups.google.com/group/rec.music.../135af30011a86220 - Cached - Similar

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Note added at 29 mins (2009-09-14 03:49:49 GMT)
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alternatives: browbeat, bulldoze

David Hollywood
Local time: 10:30
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 4
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Sabine Akabayov, PhD
1 min
  -> thanks sibsab :)

agree  David Williams
3 hrs

agree  Isabelle Wiehle
3 hrs

agree  Rolf Keiser
8 hrs

neutral  Jim Tucker (X): this is not slang, and not particularly modern
8 hrs

agree  Taunuston (X): I think "to bully" is often used in schools. I'm a secondary teacher in the UK.
2 days 5 hrs
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10 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
rip off


Explanation:
as in "take advantage off" - though I agree it doesn't have that violent connotation, but it sounds like a translation of the English term.

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-09-14 19:52:11 GMT)
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sorry, "of" not "off"

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Note added at 16 hrs (2009-09-14 20:02:22 GMT)
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based on sirgay's hint, perhaps "to fleece someone" (google books) or "to pull a fast one on someone"

Veronika McLaren
Local time: 09:30
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in GermanGerman, Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  sirgay (X): as in 'j-m den Bälg abziehen"
3 hrs
  -> Thank you!

agree  oa_xxx (X): could maybe use bullying in the first bit - then use one of these/rip off/fleece etc
7 hrs
  -> Thank you!
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