Diplom-Zeugnis

Turkish translation: Diploma

12:56 Apr 10, 2014

German to Turkish translations [PRO]
Education / Pedagogy

German term or phrase: Diplom-Zeugnis

Diplom
Vordiplom-Zeugnis
ve Diplom-Zeugnis olarak ayrı ayrı geçiyor.

Yardımlarınızı rica ederim.

eccehomo (X) KudoZ activity Questions: 73 (1 open) Answers: 0 Türkiye
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Turkish translation:Diploma

Explanation:
ve
ön diploma

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Yok, bizde (Türkçede) aynı anlamda kullanılıyor.
Yani Diplom: hakediş ve Diplom-Zeugnis: bu hakedişin sertifikası. Daha açık yazmak gerekirse: "Diplom=Diplom-Zeugnis=Diploma"
"Diplom-Zeugnis"in kelime anlamı "diploma sertifikası"dır. Ancak biz, diplom sertifikası kullanmıyoruz. Örneğin Lise Diploması, Üniversite Dilpoması... gibi

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:)
Üniversite Diploması

olacaktı tabii...

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Rica ederim. Aslında bizde de öyle, Almancadaki gibi olmalıydı, ancak öyle değil işte. Yani diploma ve diploma sertifikası denmeliydi.
Ancak hiç hayatımda bir lise diplomasının üzerine "LİSE DİPLOMASI SERTİFİKASI" yazdığını görmedim.
:)

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Dagdelen
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Local time: 20:48

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Diploma

Dagdelen

Lisans diploması

Nezihe Başer

yüksek lisans

Yusef

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Diploma

Dagdelen
Türkiye
Local time: 20:48
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Notes to answerer

Asker: Diplom ile Diplom-Zeugnis kelimeleri arasında bir fark var mı?

Asker: Çok teşekkür ederim, çok yardımcı oldunuz :)

1 day 37 mins confidence:

Lisans diploması

Explanation:
"Diplom" burada karne veya diploma değil mezuniyet derecesidir.

Örneğin "Diplom-Ingenieur", "Diplom-Übersetzer", Diplom-Architekt" gibi. Yani "Diplom", lisans, "Vordiplom" ise "ön lisanstır. Zaten "Diplom-Abschluss" verilmeyen (yani Diplom-Studiengang olmayan) derslerde "Diplom-Zeugnis" verilmez. Örn. Magister-Studiengang'dan mezun olan bir kişinin diplomasının adı "Magisterzeugnis"tir.

Umarım yeterince açıklayıcı şekilde ifade edebilmişimdir.

Nezihe Başer
Türkiye
Local time: 20:48
Native speaker of:

German,

Turkish

1 day 7 hrs confidence:

yüksek lisans

Explanation:
bildiğim kadarıyla bizde örn. mühendislikte masterin karşılığı, orada ve bir sene fazla eğitim veren mühendislik fakültesi mezunları Dipl.Ing. oluyor, bunun dışında mühendislik masteri yok

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Bunun dışında diploma da doğru, mühendislik dışı dallarda ise Magister yüksek lisans dolayısıyla Nezihe Hanım da haklı

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bunun dışında diploma da doğru, mühendislik dışı dallarda magister master karşılığı yani nezihe Hanım da haklı.

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şöyle bir bilgi var:

"Rechtlich ist ein Bachelor dem FH-Diplom gleichgestellt, ein Uni-Diplom dem Master."

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farklı bir kaynak: dipl.ing ayni sertifikatadaki İngilizce tercümesi:

"Ich bin selbst Diplom-Ingenieur und habe an der Universität Stuttgart studiert. Meine Diplomurkunde und mein Diplomzeugnis (was genauer 'Zeugnis über die Diplomprüfung' heißt), wurde vom Prüfungsamt der Universität wie folgt übersetzt:

Urkunde = Certificate

Zeugnis über die Diplomprüfung = Final Report

In der Diplomurkunde wird mein akademischer Grad genannt (nicht im Diplomzeugnis!). In der englische Überetzung der Urkunde steht:

(...)
Academic Degree Diplom-Ingenieur (Dipl.-Ing.) [equivalent to a M.Sc. in the Anglo-American university system]
(...)

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Burada diplom'un Fachhochschule (FH) veya Üniversiteden verilmiş olması önem kazanıyor.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplom:

The Diplom was usually awarded in the natural sciences, business and in engineering, while students of humanities, arts and languages finished with a Magister. (The degree in social sciences differed from university to university.) All kind of Diplom degrees were usually first degrees. However, the Diplom / Diplom (Univ.) was also the highest non-doctoral degree in science, business or engineering in Germany.

The duration of the Diplom degree programmes differed depending on subject and university. An official average duration (Regelstudienzeit) was set by law in each German state, usually being 4 years for a Diplom (FH) and 4, 4.5 or 5 years for a Diplom / Diplom (Univ.). In exceptional cases, universities were allowed to set longer average durations for certain subjects (HGRP1995 § 26 (3),[2] NHG2007 § 6 (3),[3] HmbHG2001 §53 (3)[4]). However, due to the curriculum set by most universities in Germany, the 4, 4.5 or 5 years for a Diplom / Diplom (Univ.) were often exceeded.[5] Although being a first degree, because of its actual duration, the Diplom / Diplom (Univ.) was and is in Germany not considered as an equivalent to a Bachelor's but rather to a Master's degree.

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ayni kaynak:

In the United States, the Department of Education calls the German Diplom / Diplom (Univ.) an equivalent to the Master's degree.

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In Austria:
Depending on the subject, the degrees granted are either Magister/Magistra with a specific suffix (such as Magister philosophiae for philosophy), or Diplom-Ingenieur (in engineering). Notable exceptions are the diploma studies of dentistry and medicine, which result in the degree Doctor medicinae universae (Dr. med. univ.) or Doctor medicinae dentalis (Dr. med. dent.)

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Vordiplom:
"Mit dem durch Vergabe eines Zeugnisses bestätigten Bestehen der Diplom-Vorprüfung (umgangssprachlich Vordiplom) hat der Student eines Diplom-Studiengangs die Grundlagen seines Studienfachs erlernt und damit das Grundstudium beendet. Im sich anschließenden Hauptstudium erfolgt die Spezialisierung innerhalb des Fachs. Das Studium wird mit der Diplom-Prüfung beendet. Das Vordiplom (auch Zwischenprüfung) ist hochschulrechtlich kein Abschluss, es wird mit dem Bestehen auch kein akademischer Grad verliehen."

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bjuradan da Vordiplom'un önlisans gibi başlıbaşına bir bitirme belgesi
olmadığı sadece Diplom öğrencisinin bazı aşamaları bitirdiğini ifade eden bir deyim olduğu anlaşılıyor.

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Diplom Zeugnis ve Diplomurkunde (sertifika) ayrı şeylerdir. Zeugnis karne (bitirme belgesi) Urkunde ise akademik ünvan sertifikası

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dolayısıyla lise diploması sertifikası olamaz

Yusef
Türkiye
Local time: 20:48
Works in field
Native speaker of: Turkish

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