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componimento inculto

English translation: do not translate

14:36 Jun 14, 2002
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / pictorial technique
Italian term or phrase: componimento inculto
This appears in italics in a Spanish text. It appears to be a method of pictorial composition in which you let yourself by guided by random forms seen in stains, walls, etc.

Cannot find enough examples of it on google to justify not translating it (not like trompe d'oeil for example)

Thanks, MJ
MJ Barber
Spain
Local time: 04:37
English translation:do not translate
Explanation:
It seems to refer to specific sketches by Leonardo! Look at the link below:

Secondo Andrè Chastel la Madonna dei fusi autografa di Leonardo (così come la Madonna del gatto, la Madonna del giglio per Francesco I di Francia ecc...) addirittura non è mai esistita, ma si è trattato, nel migliore dei casi, di traduzione pittorica di scuola da schizzi e progetti di Leonardo, i cosiddetti ***"componimenti inculti"*** (Le Madonne di Leonardo, 1979, ora in Leonardo da Vinci. Studi e Ricerche, Torino, Einaudi, 1995, pagg. 126-127; L'illustre incompresa. La Gioconda, Milano, Leonardo, 1989, pagg. 109-111, dove si porta nel dibattito la mediocre copia della collezione Edwards di Cincinnati, inferiore persino al prototipo della National Gallery of Scotland, assegnato da Pedretti allo spagnolo Fernando de Llanos).
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luskie
Local time: 04:37
Grading comment
yes, it does refer to Leonardo. I am not altogether happy with not translating it, as the only example I found was the one offered below, from a German site. However, I think I will have to leave it be.

Thanks to all.
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Summary of answers provided
4 +2do not translate
luskie
4 +1natural intuitive composition
Juan Viloria
4automatic painting/composition
Albert Golub
4well, literally it would be...
Rick Henry
4I think you can leave it as is
Catherine Bolton


  

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5 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
automatic painting/composition


Explanation:
like automatic writing u let yourself be guided by your feelings and senses
good luck

Albert Golub
Local time: 04:37
Native speaker of: French
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44 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +2
do not translate


Explanation:
It seems to refer to specific sketches by Leonardo! Look at the link below:

Secondo Andrè Chastel la Madonna dei fusi autografa di Leonardo (così come la Madonna del gatto, la Madonna del giglio per Francesco I di Francia ecc...) addirittura non è mai esistita, ma si è trattato, nel migliore dei casi, di traduzione pittorica di scuola da schizzi e progetti di Leonardo, i cosiddetti ***"componimenti inculti"*** (Le Madonne di Leonardo, 1979, ora in Leonardo da Vinci. Studi e Ricerche, Torino, Einaudi, 1995, pagg. 126-127; L'illustre incompresa. La Gioconda, Milano, Leonardo, 1989, pagg. 109-111, dove si porta nel dibattito la mediocre copia della collezione Edwards di Cincinnati, inferiore persino al prototipo della National Gallery of Scotland, assegnato da Pedretti allo spagnolo Fernando de Llanos).


    Reference: http://flobert.supereva.it/Madonna_dei_Fusi_Arezzo.htm
luskie
Local time: 04:37
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian
PRO pts in category: 53
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yes, it does refer to Leonardo. I am not altogether happy with not translating it, as the only example I found was the one offered below, from a German site. However, I think I will have to leave it be.

Thanks to all.

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Daniela McKeeby
14 hrs
agree  gmel117608
1 day 2 hrs
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54 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
well, literally it would be...


Explanation:
"rough sketch", but that doesn't really make sense in this particular context. Do you have the complete sentence that goes with the italics?... It might help shed some light.

HTH

Rick

Rick Henry
United States
Local time: 21:37
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
I think you can leave it as is


Explanation:
I noticed it was left this way even in a German site (combined with French!):

15.00 Uhr - Philippe Junod:
"Du ´componimento inculto´ à l'oeil sauvage"


    Reference: http://www.uni-konstanz.de/FuF/ueberfak/sfb511/tagungen/bild...
Catherine Bolton
Local time: 04:37
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Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 20
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3 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
natural intuitive composition


Explanation:
I believe you can write it in this way, and add the italian expression in parenthesis.

just an idea...

Juan Viloria
Local time: 22:37
Native speaker of: Native in SpanishSpanish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Stefano Rosso
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