Praeferre Patriam Liberis Parentem Decet.

English translation: It is right for/it behooves a parent to place his fatherland above his children.

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Latin term or phrase:Praeferre Patriam Liberis Parentem Decet.
English translation:It is right for/it behooves a parent to place his fatherland above his children.
Entered by: SeiTT

14:40 Sep 4, 2012
Latin to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - History / Historical Mottoes
Latin term or phrase: Praeferre Patriam Liberis Parentem Decet.
Hi

I believe the above is Melilla's motto.

Please could you give a literal translation too so I can see how the Latin works?

Best

Si
SeiTT
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Local time: 03:54
It is right for/it behooves a parent to place his fatherland above his children.
Explanation:
This is the literal translation, but it can be rendered less literally: a parent should/ought to place his fatherland above his children/family, for example.

Decet=It is right, proper; it behooves + accusative (parentem -father/parent)

Then, with praeferre, accusative (thing preferred) over another (in the dative case).
Liberis is dative plural of liber (child)

The phrase does not express the idea of "funeral rites" or "tomb" at all.
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Ladda McLaren
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5 +6It is right for/it behooves a parent to place his fatherland above his children.
Ladda McLaren
3 -1It is right to prefer a free country[fatherland] to preforming rites at a family tomb
Rebecca Garber


  

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It is right to prefer a free country[fatherland] to preforming rites at a family tomb


Explanation:
Literally: to give preference to .. a country .. free .. before performing rites at [family] tombs .. it is fitting/seemly/proper

So colloquially, death of family members is an acceptable cost to maintaining a free country.

There are also a number of somewhat literal, rather awkward translations available on the web.

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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
disagree  Sandra Mouton: I can see no mention in the Latin of "rites" nor of "family tomb". "Liberis" is the dative of liberi = children not "free".
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It is right for/it behooves a parent to place his fatherland above his children.


Explanation:
This is the literal translation, but it can be rendered less literally: a parent should/ought to place his fatherland above his children/family, for example.

Decet=It is right, proper; it behooves + accusative (parentem -father/parent)

Then, with praeferre, accusative (thing preferred) over another (in the dative case).
Liberis is dative plural of liber (child)

The phrase does not express the idea of "funeral rites" or "tomb" at all.

Ladda McLaren
Local time: 21:54
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Many thanks, perfect!

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agree  Veronika McLaren
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agree  Sandra Mouton
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agree  Judit Babcsányi
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