dziedzic cząstkowy Szlachcie nielegitymowany

English translation: a fractional real estate/land owner, an unverified nobleman/of unverified nobility

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Polish term or phrase:dziedzic cząstkowy Szlachcie nielegitymowany
English translation:a fractional real estate/land owner, an unverified nobleman/of unverified nobility
Entered by: Timoshka

18:01 Oct 17, 2020
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Social Sciences - History
Polish term or phrase: dziedzic cząstkowy Szlachcie nielegitymowany
The two informants in an 1850 death record from Kościelne Drozdowo, Poland, are recorded as follows:

“Maciej Karwowski lat dwadziescia dziewięć, syn zmarłego, tudzież Jakób Prusinowski lat pięćdziesiąt mający, pierwszy dziedzic cząstkowy Szlachcie nielegitymowany, drugi włościanin wyrobnik…”

Does this mean the first informant (son of the deceased) was a joint-heir of the deceased and an undocumented nobleman?
Timoshka
Local time: 17:20
a fractional real estate/land owner, an unverified nobleman/of unverified nobility
Explanation:
a fractional owner of (real) estate / a fractional real estate owner - dziedzic cząstkowy / an owner of a part of a single village

dziedzic, nie jako dziedziczący majątek (heir), tylko jako właściciel ziemski (land proprietor/owner)

Szlachcie nielegitymowany
"I disagree, however, that representatives of the szlachta-originated part of this group were recruited exclusively from the legally verified nobility (p. 247)."
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Thus, one must deduce that among the verified nobility, the landed proprietors at that time represented a decidedly large percentage of the whole then Beauvois claims.
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/huri/files/vxxi_n1_2_j...
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2a fractional real estate/land owner, an unverified nobleman/of unverified nobility
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Legitymacja szlachty polskiej w prowincjach zabranych przez Rosję.
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dziedzic cząstkowy, Szlachcie nielegitymowany
a fractional real estate/land owner, an unverified nobleman/of unverified nobility


Explanation:
a fractional owner of (real) estate / a fractional real estate owner - dziedzic cząstkowy / an owner of a part of a single village

dziedzic, nie jako dziedziczący majątek (heir), tylko jako właściciel ziemski (land proprietor/owner)

Szlachcie nielegitymowany
"I disagree, however, that representatives of the szlachta-originated part of this group were recruited exclusively from the legally verified nobility (p. 247)."
...
Thus, one must deduce that among the verified nobility, the landed proprietors at that time represented a decidedly large percentage of the whole then Beauvois claims.
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/huri/files/vxxi_n1_2_j...

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Reference: Legitymacja szlachty polskiej w prowincjach zabranych przez Rosję.

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Do legitymowania szlachty zamieszkałej w prowincjach objętych pierwszym podziałem Rzplitej, władze rosyjskie przystąpiły niemal natychmiast po wcieleniu ich do Rosji. Świadczą o tym wywody ze szlachectwa dokonywane przed sądami ziemskimi tych prowincyj w latach 1773 — 1775 - https://www.lyczkowski.net/pl/artykul/legitymacja-szlachty.h...

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Note added at 7 hrs (2020-10-18 01:49:56 GMT)
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After the three partitions of Poland (1772-1795), all noble families were obligated to prove their noble status to the countries who took control over the former Polish lands. - https://www.legacytree.com/blog/tracing-nobility#

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Because of frequent false claims to nobility, families had to legitimize (provide documentary proof of) their nobility. - https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Poland_Nobility

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