majątek vs. wartość majątkowa

English translation: assets/property vs items of value

21:12 Aug 28, 2020
Polish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Law: Contract(s)
Polish term or phrase: majątek vs. wartość majątkowa
PROCEDURA PRZECIWDZIAŁANIA PRANIU PIENIĘDZY
ORAZ FINANSOWANIU TERRORYZMU

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ustalanie źródeł MAJĄTKU Klienta i źródeł pochodzenia WARTOŚCI MAJĄTKOWYCH pozostających w dyspozycji Klienta w ramach Stosunków gospodarczych lub Transakcji okazjonalnej także na podstawie powszechnie dostępnych, wiarygodnych i niezależnych danych, dokumentów lub informacji;


Przez pół tekstu tłumaczyłam "wartości majątkowe" po prostu jako "assets", a tu teraz taki myk...
A tak w ogóle, czy jest jakaś różnica pomiędzy "źródłem", a "źródłem pochodzenia"??
Joanna Chułek
Local time: 14:44
English translation:assets/property vs items of value
Explanation:
assets vs items of value

Tak przypuszczam po krótkiej lekturze źródeł zagranicznych

money laundering as a means to justify seizing valuable assets, including cash, bank deposits, stock, motor vehicles, real property, and other items of value.
https://www.mctexaslaw.com/what-is-money-laundering

Another important issue that comes up frequently is the management of forfeitable assets located abroad. Many governments lack the infrastructure or legal regime required to actively manage property such as real estate, planes, boats, and other items that might require active management or special handling.
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Generally, the Government may seize bank accounts, cars, boats, aircraft, jewelry, and other items of value pursuant to a warrant after proving that restraining the property would not be effective.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao/legacy/2013...

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Note added at 11 hrs (2020-08-29 08:56:10 GMT)
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Property seized for evidence can automatically be forfeited:This common error results in many missed opportunities for forfeiture. Each type of forfeitureset forth below contains strict time limits. Once missed, the Government is prohibited from commencing forfeiture under the time-barred provision. For this reason, it is critical for investigators to consult with their asset forfeiture personnel regardingany item that they do not wish to return to the person from whom it was seized.

All property owned by a criminal is subject to forfeiture: On the contrary, asset forfeiture is purely a creature of statute. While there are numerous federal laws providing for forfeiture, there are also some crimes that do not have a corresponding forfeiture statute. Other crimes have only limited forfeiture provisions.

Asset forfeiture and restitution are mutually exclusive:Actually, asset forfeiture relates to the amount of proceeds generated by a crime and, in some cases, the actual property used to commit a crime, while restitution relates to the amount of losses caused by a crime. By statute, judges are required to order both where applicable.
https://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/microsites/...
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3 +1wealth vs. items of value/assets
Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
2 +2assets/property vs items of value
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2 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +1
wealth vs. items of value/assets


Explanation:
WARTOŚCI MAJĄTKOWE appear to refer to individual items that possess value (and their source can be tracked one by one) whereas MAJĄTEK is a comprehensive notion (and its source could be banking, stock market gains, etc., as a whole).

Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.
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agree  mike23: I agree if 'wealth' is a comprehensive term for all cash and assets gained through illicit activity.
9 hrs
  -> Dziękuję Michale.
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11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +2
assets/property vs items of value


Explanation:
assets vs items of value

Tak przypuszczam po krótkiej lekturze źródeł zagranicznych

money laundering as a means to justify seizing valuable assets, including cash, bank deposits, stock, motor vehicles, real property, and other items of value.
https://www.mctexaslaw.com/what-is-money-laundering

Another important issue that comes up frequently is the management of forfeitable assets located abroad. Many governments lack the infrastructure or legal regime required to actively manage property such as real estate, planes, boats, and other items that might require active management or special handling.
...
Generally, the Government may seize bank accounts, cars, boats, aircraft, jewelry, and other items of value pursuant to a warrant after proving that restraining the property would not be effective.
https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao/legacy/2013...

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Note added at 11 hrs (2020-08-29 08:56:10 GMT)
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Property seized for evidence can automatically be forfeited:This common error results in many missed opportunities for forfeiture. Each type of forfeitureset forth below contains strict time limits. Once missed, the Government is prohibited from commencing forfeiture under the time-barred provision. For this reason, it is critical for investigators to consult with their asset forfeiture personnel regardingany item that they do not wish to return to the person from whom it was seized.

All property owned by a criminal is subject to forfeiture: On the contrary, asset forfeiture is purely a creature of statute. While there are numerous federal laws providing for forfeiture, there are also some crimes that do not have a corresponding forfeiture statute. Other crimes have only limited forfeiture provisions.

Asset forfeiture and restitution are mutually exclusive:Actually, asset forfeiture relates to the amount of proceeds generated by a crime and, in some cases, the actual property used to commit a crime, while restitution relates to the amount of losses caused by a crime. By statute, judges are required to order both where applicable.
https://web.law.columbia.edu/sites/default/files/microsites/...

mike23
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agree  Frank Szmulowicz, Ph. D.: Dobra dyskusja.
2 hrs
  -> Dziękuję Frank. Pozdrawiam.

agree  Magdalena Szewciów
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