solicita pe cale separată

English translation: claim/seek them by separate application

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Romanian term or phrase:solicita pe cale separată
English translation:claim/seek them by separate application
Entered by: Gabriela Raț

07:42 Jan 7, 2021
Romanian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Romanian term or phrase: solicita pe cale separată
In ce priveste cheltuielile de judecata, declara ca isi rezerva dreptul de a le solicita pe cale separata.

M-ar interesa termenul juridic pentru sintagma. Eu initial am tradus "claim them on a separate occasion", dar mi se pare o exprimare prea colocviala.

Am mai intalnit undeva "claim via different avenues". Mie nu mi se pare corect, nu prea am gasit in alta parte varianta asta.

Stie cineva termenul juridic pentru expresia mea? Poate "claim through a separate channel"?
Gabriela Raț
Romania
Local time: 03:19
claim/seek them by separate application
Explanation:
Cred că există mai multe variante în contextul de față, nu sunt de părere că există doar una singură formulare consacrată. Eu unul așa aș traduce: "claim/seek them by separate application" sau "in separate proceedings", acestea fiind formulările cele mai elegante și concise care îmi vin în minte, dar mai jos ai și niște variațiuni pe aceeași temă. Menționez că am avut grijă să mă bazez pe site-uri care îmi par a fi de încredere, de ex. surse guvernamentale/judiciare. Sper să-ți folosească drept surse de inspirație!

Judgment

The Honourable Mr Justice Cobb :

[1] By application dated 1 July 2015, BC (hereafter “the mother”) seeks orders for financial provision from DE (hereafter “the father”) under Schedule 1 of the Children Act 1989 (“the 1989 Act”), in respect of their child, F, who is soon to be 8 years old. ***By separate application*** (14 August 2015) she further **sought** a lump sum for outstanding legal costs...
https://www.familylaw.co.uk/news_and_comment/bc-v-de-2016-ew...

PRACTICE DIRECTIONS
UPPER TRIBUNAL (LANDS CHAMBER)
(...)
The costs reasonably incurred by the appellant in a section 18 appeal are taken into account in assessing the amount of compensation payable to them in respect of the compulsory acquisition of their land and need not be the subject of a **separate application for costs** at the conclusion of the appeal.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/19-Oct-2...

Any decision in relation to the proceedings will not be affected in any way by the fact that a **separate application for costs has been made**. The determination of a costs application is a separate process.
https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2018-10/s...

Please note that a **separate costs application has been made** on the grounds that the appellant has been put to unnecessary expense in pursuing the appeal.
https://myplanning.warrington.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/...

În materie de recuperarea cheltuielilor de judecată, aș remarca că verbul "to seek" (= a cere) este frecvent întâlnit în engleză, pe lângă "claim". Uite un exemplu din State:

Plaintiff shall **seek costs separately**.
https://casetext.com/case/smallwood-v-commr-of-soc-sec-2

Cât despre propriile tale propuneri, "through a separate channel" mi se pare un pic prea figurat, prefer ceva mai direct. "On a separate occasion" mie nu mi se pare familiar, dar aș merge mai degrabă pe una dintre variantele de mai sus care au fost folosite în jurisprudență recentă.
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Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
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Multumesc!
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4claim them through a stand-alone legal procedure
Rocsana Guignaudeau
4claim/seek them by separate application
Peter Shortall


  

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claim them through a stand-alone legal procedure


Explanation:
Conform site-ului www.juridice.ro, partea care pierde procesul va fi obligata sa achite cheltuielile de judecata nu din oficiu, ci la cererea partii castigatoare care se numeste "cerere principala".

O solicitate pe cale separata este o solicitare pe cale principala, printr-o actiune de sine statatoare formulata exclusiv pentru aceste cheltuieli sau impreuna cu alte apete principale de cerere.

Mai multe explicatii in link-ul asociat


    https://www.juridice.ro/554129/cai-procesuale-pentru-solicitarea-cheltuielilor-de-judecata.html
Rocsana Guignaudeau
France
Local time: 02:19
Native speaker of: Native in RomanianRomanian
Notes to answerer
Asker: Multumesc!

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5 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
claim/seek them by separate application


Explanation:
Cred că există mai multe variante în contextul de față, nu sunt de părere că există doar una singură formulare consacrată. Eu unul așa aș traduce: "claim/seek them by separate application" sau "in separate proceedings", acestea fiind formulările cele mai elegante și concise care îmi vin în minte, dar mai jos ai și niște variațiuni pe aceeași temă. Menționez că am avut grijă să mă bazez pe site-uri care îmi par a fi de încredere, de ex. surse guvernamentale/judiciare. Sper să-ți folosească drept surse de inspirație!

Judgment

The Honourable Mr Justice Cobb :

[1] By application dated 1 July 2015, BC (hereafter “the mother”) seeks orders for financial provision from DE (hereafter “the father”) under Schedule 1 of the Children Act 1989 (“the 1989 Act”), in respect of their child, F, who is soon to be 8 years old. ***By separate application*** (14 August 2015) she further **sought** a lump sum for outstanding legal costs...
https://www.familylaw.co.uk/news_and_comment/bc-v-de-2016-ew...

PRACTICE DIRECTIONS
UPPER TRIBUNAL (LANDS CHAMBER)
(...)
The costs reasonably incurred by the appellant in a section 18 appeal are taken into account in assessing the amount of compensation payable to them in respect of the compulsory acquisition of their land and need not be the subject of a **separate application for costs** at the conclusion of the appeal.
https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/19-Oct-2...

Any decision in relation to the proceedings will not be affected in any way by the fact that a **separate application for costs has been made**. The determination of a costs application is a separate process.
https://gov.wales/sites/default/files/publications/2018-10/s...

Please note that a **separate costs application has been made** on the grounds that the appellant has been put to unnecessary expense in pursuing the appeal.
https://myplanning.warrington.gov.uk/Planning/StreamDocPage/...

În materie de recuperarea cheltuielilor de judecată, aș remarca că verbul "to seek" (= a cere) este frecvent întâlnit în engleză, pe lângă "claim". Uite un exemplu din State:

Plaintiff shall **seek costs separately**.
https://casetext.com/case/smallwood-v-commr-of-soc-sec-2

Cât despre propriile tale propuneri, "through a separate channel" mi se pare un pic prea figurat, prefer ceva mai direct. "On a separate occasion" mie nu mi se pare familiar, dar aș merge mai degrabă pe una dintre variantele de mai sus care au fost folosite în jurisprudență recentă.

Peter Shortall
United Kingdom
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Multumesc!
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Asker: Multumesc foarte mult pentru raspuns! Am folosit ”seek by separate application”.

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