bun comun si bun propriu

English translation: joint asset and personal asset; jointly owned and separately owned, personal asset

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Romanian term or phrase:bun comun si bun propriu
English translation:joint asset and personal asset; jointly owned and separately owned, personal asset
Entered by: Elena

14:12 Mar 28, 2021
Romanian to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law (general)
Romanian term or phrase: bun comun si bun propriu
CERTIFICAT DE MOȘTENlTOR NR. 123Și ACT DE PARTAJ SUCCESORALLotul nr.

Subsemnata, x, preiau, in natură, in deplina proprietate, urmatoarele bunuri mobile și imobile ce fac parte din masa succesorala, asa cum sunt descrise mai jos:
a) cota parte indiviza de 20/28 (8/28, ca bun comun și 12/28, ca bun propriu) din dreptul de proprietate asupra imobilului - teren arabil situat in xyz avand numar cadastral 123, in suprafa¡a de 333 mp.

Care ar fi cel mai potrivit termen pentru bunuri comune si bunuri proprii in acest context?
Elena
Türkiye
Local time: 22:14
joint asset and personal asset; jointly owned and separately owned, personal asset
Explanation:
bunuri comune > jointly owned assets, for instance as marital or matrimonial 'community property' known in ENG law as 'jouintly tenanted' property _ jus accrescendi applies and the undivided share passes to the survivor by 'right of survivorship.

vs. bunuri proprii cf. a tenancy-in-common or separate, personal property > can be disposed of by Will and does not automatically accrue to the survivor.

ACT DE PARTAJ SUCCESORAL: Deed of 'Partition' > Distribution of Estate or 'assenting of testamentary gifts to the rightful beneficiaries'. in E+W, an assent form is or used to be needed to pass a leasehold estate to a beneficiary or heirs-at-law on intestacy and attracted stamp duty of 50p.

I have an idea of the law behind the terms, rather than the Romanian grammar ....
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Adrian MM.
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Multumesc!
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joint asset and personal asset; jointly owned and separately owned, personal asset


Explanation:
bunuri comune > jointly owned assets, for instance as marital or matrimonial 'community property' known in ENG law as 'jouintly tenanted' property _ jus accrescendi applies and the undivided share passes to the survivor by 'right of survivorship.

vs. bunuri proprii cf. a tenancy-in-common or separate, personal property > can be disposed of by Will and does not automatically accrue to the survivor.

ACT DE PARTAJ SUCCESORAL: Deed of 'Partition' > Distribution of Estate or 'assenting of testamentary gifts to the rightful beneficiaries'. in E+W, an assent form is or used to be needed to pass a leasehold estate to a beneficiary or heirs-at-law on intestacy and attracted stamp duty of 50p.

I have an idea of the law behind the terms, rather than the Romanian grammar ....


    Reference: http://www.clarionsolicitors.com/articles/what-happens-to-jo...
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Adrian MM.
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Multumesc!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Peter Shortall: You did just fine with the grammar here!
2 hrs
  -> Thanks, Peter. My linguistic problem is the 'si' interference from other Romance lingos in which the conjunction means yes or if.

agree  Liviu-Lee Roth
4 days
  -> Multumesc and thanks de novo.
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