свержение существующего строя и установление военной власти

English translation: military coup d'etat

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Russian term or phrase:свержение существующего строя и установление военной власти
English translation:military coup d'etat
Entered by: Oleg Lozinskiy

20:37 Jul 25, 2020
Russian to English translations [PRO]
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Russian term or phrase: свержение существующего строя и установление военной власти
Описание форс-мажорных обстоятельств:

восстание, революция, свержение существующего строя и установление военной власти, гражданская война.

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интересно, это входит в одно понятие или свержение строя - это одно, а установление военной власти -это другое?
responder
Russian Federation
Local time: 22:10
military coup d'etat
Explanation:
https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

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Coup d'état
political intervention

Coup d’état, also called coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. The chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements. Unlike a revolution, which is usually achieved by large numbers of people working for basic social, economic, and political change, a coup is a change in power from the top that merely results in the abrupt replacement of leading government personnel. A coup rarely alters a nation’s fundamental social and economic policies, nor does it significantly redistribute power among competing political groups. Among the earliest modern coups were those in which Napoleon overthrew the Directory on November 9, 1799 (18 Brumaire), and in which Louis Napoleon dissolved the assembly of France’s Second Republic in 1851. Coups were a regular occurrence in various Latin American nations in the 19th and 20th centuries and in Africa after the countries there gained independence in the 1960s.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/coup-detat

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См. также: https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

Примеров, согласно результатам гугл-поиска, несчитано:
https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

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На русском языке также именуется "военный перевррот":

Военный переворот — захват власти в государстве военными, осуществляемый с нарушением действующих на данный момент конституционных и правовых норм.
https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Категория:Военные_перевороты
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Oleg Lozinskiy
Russian Federation
Local time: 22:10
Grading comment
Спасибо, Олег!
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Summary of answers provided
3 +4military coup d'etat
Oleg Lozinskiy
4ousting the existing power and establishing military power
Vadim Khazin
4overthrow of existing government and imposition of martial law
YESHWANT UMRALKAR
4to stage a military coup
Vera Klink
3toppling the current regime and establishment of the military junta
Michael Sarni


Discussion entries: 2





  

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15 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
ousting the existing power and establishing military power


Explanation:
this may refer either to separate events or to a combination of both.

Vadim Khazin
Local time: 15:10
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian, Native in UkrainianUkrainian
PRO pts in category: 4

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: And who exactly is "ousting existing power" and "establishing military power"? As it appears, in 1917 nobody of the Russian 'establishment' had the power and Bolsheviks just grabbed it (without knowing what they would do wirh this 'power').
46 mins
  -> "who exactly" is not clarified in the source, so why should it be in the translation?

neutral  Boris Shapiro: This use of 'power' is non-idiomatic. A word-for-word translation, to be sure. // In this case I think it does. I know of no examples of such usage. You can have separation of powers, but you don't have a 'military power' or 'existing power' among these.
8 hrs
  -> "word-for-word translation" does not mean "wrong"
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17 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5
toppling the current regime and establishment of the military junta


Explanation:
Разные виды исторических событий

Michael Sarni
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:10
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: And who exactly is "toppling the current regime and establishing military junta"? And why so many words to translate?
14 mins
  -> The toppling of, if you prefer..

neutral  Boris Shapiro: Calling the previous political system a 'regime' is akin to taking sides, don't you think? Rather inappropriate for a legal text.
8 hrs
  -> I concede the point. "Government" for "regime" and "rule" for "junta" sounds about right. Talking 'bout перо & топор.
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11 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +4
military coup d'etat


Explanation:
https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

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Coup d'état
political intervention

Coup d’état, also called coup, the sudden, violent overthrow of an existing government by a small group. The chief prerequisite for a coup is control of all or part of the armed forces, the police, and other military elements. Unlike a revolution, which is usually achieved by large numbers of people working for basic social, economic, and political change, a coup is a change in power from the top that merely results in the abrupt replacement of leading government personnel. A coup rarely alters a nation’s fundamental social and economic policies, nor does it significantly redistribute power among competing political groups. Among the earliest modern coups were those in which Napoleon overthrew the Directory on November 9, 1799 (18 Brumaire), and in which Louis Napoleon dissolved the assembly of France’s Second Republic in 1851. Coups were a regular occurrence in various Latin American nations in the 19th and 20th centuries and in Africa after the countries there gained independence in the 1960s.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/coup-detat

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Note added at 16 мин (2020-07-25 20:53:47 GMT)
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См. также: https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

Примеров, согласно результатам гугл-поиска, несчитано:
https://www.google.ru/search?newwindow=1&biw=1045&bih=730&tb...

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Note added at 27 мин (2020-07-25 21:04:34 GMT)
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На русском языке также именуется "военный перевррот":

Военный переворот — захват власти в государстве военными, осуществляемый с нарушением действующих на данный момент конституционных и правовых норм.
https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/Категория:Военные_перевороты

Oleg Lozinskiy
Russian Federation
Local time: 22:10
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in RussianRussian
PRO pts in category: 400
Grading comment
Спасибо, Олег!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Boris Shapiro
8 hrs
  -> Thank you, Boris!

agree  Igor Timko
13 hrs
  -> Thank you, Igor!

agree  DTSM
1 day 10 hrs
  -> Thank you, DT SM!

agree  Vera Klink
2 days 11 hrs
  -> Thank you, Vera!
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31 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
overthrow of existing government and imposition of martial law


Explanation:
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YESHWANT UMRALKAR
India
Local time: 00:40
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 16

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Oleg Lozinskiy: См. например: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d'état_attem... "Мятеж не может кончиться удачей, в противном случае его зовут иначе." (Сэр Джон Харингтон в вольном переводе С.Я. Маршака) (см. Вики - сюда гиперссылка не влезла).
14 mins
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2 days 11 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5
to stage a military coup


Explanation:
I'd replace the lengthy Russian phrase with the simple expression "to stage a military coup". In a coup, by definition, the military (or paramilitary, or opposing political faction) deposes the current government and seizes political power.

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To answer your question: интересно, это входит в одно понятие или свержение строя - это одно, а установление военной власти -это другое?

A military coup includes both. But if you wanted to separate the two concepts, then свержение строя = overthrow the government; установление военной власти = imposition/declaration of martial law. These are just some examples.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
Vera Klink
Canada
Local time: 13:10
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in RussianRussian
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