Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor

English translation: Rental Vehicle with Driver

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Spanish term or phrase:Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor
English translation:Rental Vehicle with Driver
Entered by: CRISTINA FERNANDEZ NEBREDA

10:10 Oct 1, 2020
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Economics
Spanish term or phrase: Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor
Hola, en la traducción de la presentación de nuevos productos, se mencionan los VTC (Vehículo de Turismo con Conductor), y me gustaría encontrar el EQUIVALENTE EXACTO en inglés. También me gustaría saber si hay una sigla equivalente al VTC.

He visto opciones y traducciones varias, pero no sé si son completas o exactas.

"Chauffeur-driven cars","Chauffeur vehicles", "rideshare", ...?

¡Muchas gracias!
CRISTINA FERNANDEZ NEBREDA
Spain
Local time: 08:25
Rental Vehicle with Driver
Explanation:
I don't think there's an acronym for it.


Terms & Conditions of Use - HOOP Carpoolhoopcarpool.com › terms-conditions-of-use
Hoop reserves the right to suspend your Account if you use a rental vehicle with driver or other commercial vehicle, taxi or company vehicle in order to generate ...


Rent bus Geneva – Car Rental driver Geneva Rental bus ...rentcarbus.com › rent-bus-geneva
Cars Limousine minibuses Limousine buses. Rental vehicle with driver vs chauffeur. For the band, see The Limousines. For the former administrative region of ...

Uber joins Cabiy and offers taxi service in Madrid – Archydewww.archyde.com › uber-joins-cabiy-and-offers-taxi-s...
Nov 22, 2019 - ... provides a rental vehicle with driver (VTC). The US firm integrates the taxi into its application four months after Cabify already did it last July.



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https://n332.es/2018/09/04/diesel-to-be-taxed-in-2019/
Selected response from:

Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 08:25
Grading comment
In my opinion, this is the best answer for this case, where we didn't have more context. Many thanks, Lisa!!
4 KudoZ points were awarded for this answer



Summary of answers provided
3 +6Private hire vehicle (PHV)
Althea Draper
3 +3Rental Vehicle with Driver
Lisa McCarthy
3 +2Passenger Car with Driver
Marouchka Heijnen
2 +1vehicle for hire
Taña Dalglish
Summary of reference entries provided
An interesting reference (only valid for the EU)
Toni Castano

Discussion entries: 4





  

Answers


27 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
Passenger Car with Driver


Explanation:
Posiblemente es demasiado general pero entiendo que ofrecen un vehículo de turismo sin especificar con un conductor.

Marouchka Heijnen
Spain
Local time: 08:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in DutchDutch
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks, Marouchka for your help. I also liked your reply for this case, but couldn't share points, as I've been told. Have a great week!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Antonio Tomás Lessa do Amaral
1 hr
  -> Thank you, Antonio

agree  philgoddard: Assuming we don't get the context, I think this literal translation is best.
7 hrs
  -> Thank you, Phil!
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36 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +6
Private hire vehicle (PHV)


Explanation:
From what I can glean, the VTC license covers services such as Uber and chauffeur driven cars.

https://www.choferdelujo.com/private-chauffeur-spain/

In the UK, there is a classification of PHV (private hire vehicles) which both Uber type services and chauffeur services come under.

http://toth.dacorum.gov.uk/docs/default-source/licensing-doc...

This sets out the difference between taxis and PHVs

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/...

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NB this is UK only - it may be different for other English speaking countries.



    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/212554/taxi-private-hire-licensing-guide.pdf
    Reference: http://toth.dacorum.gov.uk/docs/default-source/licensing-doc...
Althea Draper
United Kingdom
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
Notes to answerer
Asker: Wow, Althea, a very detailed reply. Thank-you! However, in this case, since I was not sure it was for the UK, I had to choose a more general term. Best from Madrid!


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  patinba
46 mins
  -> Thanks patinba

agree  EirTranslations
56 mins
  -> Thanks EirTranslations

agree  eski: Sounds right to me. :)
3 hrs
  -> Thanks eski

agree  neilmac
4 hrs
  -> Thanks neilmac

neutral  philgoddard: I don't think this will be clearly understood by anyone outside the UK. It could be mistaken for a rental car, for example.
6 hrs
  -> That's why (as you can see above) I mentioned that this applied to the UK only. VTC covers Uber type services and chauffeur services which is the direct equivalent of PHV in the UK. The literal translations make no sense at all in the UK.

agree  Toni Castano: This is absolutely fine for the UK and you explicitly pointed out your suggestion is only targetting the UK readership. There´s no possible misunderstanding with your rendering.
8 hrs
  -> Thanks Toni

agree  Antonella Perazzoni
1 day 3 hrs
  -> Thanks Antonella
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43 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +3
Rental Vehicle with Driver


Explanation:
I don't think there's an acronym for it.


Terms & Conditions of Use - HOOP Carpoolhoopcarpool.com › terms-conditions-of-use
Hoop reserves the right to suspend your Account if you use a rental vehicle with driver or other commercial vehicle, taxi or company vehicle in order to generate ...


Rent bus Geneva – Car Rental driver Geneva Rental bus ...rentcarbus.com › rent-bus-geneva
Cars Limousine minibuses Limousine buses. Rental vehicle with driver vs chauffeur. For the band, see The Limousines. For the former administrative region of ...

Uber joins Cabiy and offers taxi service in Madrid – Archydewww.archyde.com › uber-joins-cabiy-and-offers-taxi-s...
Nov 22, 2019 - ... provides a rental vehicle with driver (VTC). The US firm integrates the taxi into its application four months after Cabify already did it last July.



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https://n332.es/2018/09/04/diesel-to-be-taxed-in-2019/



    https://n332.es/2018/09/04/diesel-to-be-taxed-in-2019/
Lisa McCarthy
Spain
Local time: 08:25
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
PRO pts in category: 36
Grading comment
In my opinion, this is the best answer for this case, where we didn't have more context. Many thanks, Lisa!!

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Toni Castano: A "general" perfectly valid translation for a query with an unspecified target country. I think it´s important to mention "with driver" to avoid possible misunderstandings.
9 hrs
  -> Thanks, Toni :-)

agree  Helena Chavarria: I lost my internet connection when I was writing. I wanted to say that this is what I used a couple of weeks ago when I translated an 'atestado'. I spent quite a bit of time researching the answer and this is what I chose.
1 day 8 hrs
  -> Thanks, Helena :-)

agree  Yvonne Gallagher
1 day 12 hrs
  -> Thanks, Yvonne:-)
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32 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 2/5Answerer confidence 2/5 peer agreement (net): +1
vehicle for hire


Explanation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_for_hire

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehículo_de_transporte_con_con...


France: Nationwide vehicle-for-hire drivers' strike May 28www.garda.com › crisis24 › news-alerts › france-nation...
May 27, 2019 - Vehicle-for-hire (VTC) drivers plan nationwide strike May 28; traffic disruptions expected.



Uber in Spain: The political fallout from the taxi strikes in Spain ...english.elpais.com › Economy And Business › News
Jan 28, 2019 - ... competition, which takes the shape of ride-hailing companies that use VTC (vehicle for hire) licenses to operate, such as Uber and Cabify. https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2019/01/28/inenglish/15486...

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https://publicgoods.eu/recent-twists-uber-saga-spanish-and-f...
Since then, Spanish taxi drivers has been complain that rival drivers from ride-hailing apps – such as Uber or Cabify, also known as VTCs (Tourism Vehicles with Chauffeur) – compete unfairly since they do not face the same regulations and costs. The drivers Madrid started an indefinite strike on Monday to protest competition from VTCs, following their colleagues in Barcelona who began striking on Friday.

Change Article Language - IKCESTikcest.org › article-106335-
... the vehicle for hire (VTCs) sector that will require ride-hailing companies such ... Ride-hailing companies Uber and Cabify have previously said they will pull ... http://ikcest.org/article-106335-.htm

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Note added at 2 days 4 hrs (2020-10-03 14:25:33 GMT)
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@ Crisdelux: Can't say I agree with your comment re "driver" (must include the term). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_for_hire (the text states: A vehicle for hire is a vehicle providing private transport or shared transport for a fee, in which passengers are generally free to choose their points or approximate points of origin and destination, unlike public transport, ..", e.g. Uber, etc., etc.)
However, you've been given options, e.g. that may satisfy UK requirements, but IMO, a "vehicle for hire" is just that, and to state that the driver is included is almost absurd and redundant. Answer to another query you outlined: No, you cannot share points! It is not an option provided by ProZ!

Taña Dalglish
Jamaica
Local time: 02:25
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 28
Notes to answerer
Asker: Hi Taña. In this case this reply remains unclear, since it does not mention the DRIVER. Many thanks for your help and references, though! :)


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  eski: Good references! All good, thanks. U2 :)
3 hrs
  -> Thanks Eski. Hope all is good and staying very safe? Very concerned (we are tiny), but all good personally.
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Reference comments


10 hrs
Reference: An interesting reference (only valid for the EU)

Reference information:
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/transport/files/2016-09...
Study on passenger transport by taxi, hire car with driver and ridesharing in the EU
(...)
Hire car with driver [NACE H 49.3.2] is a separate class of “for hire service” that covers services that operates based on pre-negotiated fares and pre-arranged reservations. In some Member States, they are limited in the type of service they can operate (e.g. minimum length of trip in distance or duration) and in others not. Depending on the way they are regulated, they can compete directly, partially or not with taxis. In some Member States, the hire car with driver service overlaps with the limousine service, which is, in general, considered a small high-end luxury segment of chauffeured vehicles for special occasions, such as ceremonies. This type of service can have different denomination depending on the country, such as private hire vehicle (PHV in the UK), véhicule de transport avec chauffeur (VTC in France) or service de location de voitures avec chauffeur (SLC in Belgium).

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Ha sido un placer, Crisdelux. Me alegra haber podido contribuir a encontrar una solución.

Toni Castano
Spain
Native speaker of: Spanish
PRO pts in category: 4
Note to reference poster
Asker: Muchas gracias, Toni! Todo aporta, y está claro que hay otras opciones. He elegido la que me ha parecido mejor en este caso. Cuídate! :)

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