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Glossary entry

Bosnian term or phrase:

jastvo, Jastvo

English translation:

selfness, Selfness

Added to glossary by BUZOV
Apr 27, 2004 12:54
20 yrs ago
Bosnian term

jastvo, Jastvo

Bosnian to English Art/Literary Philosophy
"S obzirom na to da je jastvo u odvojenosti od Jastva, ono je u stalnome strahu od zaboravljanja ili sunovraćanja prema ne-Jastvu."

any philosophers out there?

Discussion

Nedzad Selmanovic Apr 27, 2004:
Hm. Hm. Hm, hm. Mislim da je Jastvo onaj kona�ni samoidentitet, dok je jastvo trenutni. Hm.
Non-ProZ.com Apr 27, 2004:
posebno mi je, dakle, bitna razlika izme�u jastva (malo po�etno slovo) i Jastva (veliko po�etno slovo)

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selfness, Selfness


http://www.charm.net/~brooklyn/Texts/GoldenEternity.html
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All these selfnesses have already vanished. Einstein measured that this present universe is an expanding bubble, and you know what that means.
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Discard such definite imaginations of phenomena as your own self, thou human being, thou'rt a numberless mass of sun-motes: each mote a shrine. The same as to your shyness of other selves, selfness as divided into infinite numbers of beings,
or selfness as identified as one self existing eternally

http://reason.com/benfordclone.shtml
… Just as an ant colony or a baseball game has an integrity even as its insects or players change, we have an irreducible selfness.
…Over what spans of time and condition can we keep our sense of selfness unbroken? …
…The bedrock issue of preserving one's selfness then intersects the increasing interest in prolonging life--if necessary by either freezing oneself after death, or even "uploading" into computers.
…How we envision our selfness depends on this huge question, now a hot topic.
…So even to envision cryonics proceeding, one must require that future society has solved both scientific and moral questions about selfness and its implications

http://www.nonserviam.com/stirner/reviews/fredrics.html
… The anarchist believed in a freedom of choice--in a possession of one's selfness and in the primacy of the individual's ability to judge the best for that selfness…
…The individual, in order to be free, must refuse to be possessed by any of the fixed ideas, by wheels in the head, by abstractions that have no real meaning to his selfness…
… Is not to destroy, but to preserve, in the face of external destructive forces, that which the rebel feels is essential to his selfness. An anarchist cannot be nihilistic because….
… Max Stirner very interestingly reflected much of the tension that dominated the 1840s in Europe. His prose is powerful and seductive. He spoke to questions which plagued him in his own day, but ones which have not lost their currency--witness the rebel, the search for freedom, the search for selfness….

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Kolega Selmanović, oprostite ako sam prouzročio suvišan trud. Htjedoh samo pripomoći kao komentar uz Vaš prievod (možda sam trebao staviti agree pa uz to natuknice) ... Usput, onaj nije Maadi (staroegipatska dinastija) nego Mani => Maniheizam , a njihovo učenje spominje "božansku svjetlost" razdijeljenu u pojedince s tim da u svakom čovjeku leži "jedna iskra toga svjetla" ... pa su tako i razapeli da "preda svoju iskru" ... eh sad, komu ... Bogu ili Jastvu
O tomu šire na:
http://i-cias.com/e.o/manichae.htm

A budući je pitano za razliku "j" i "J" spomenuo sam to tek kao jednu od mogućih varijacija ....







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Note added at 3 hrs 56 mins (2004-04-27 16:50:51 GMT)
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Evo još jedne:

http://www.ibn-sina.net/press/knjige.asp?tekst_id=7&knjiga_i...
Filozofija Mulla Sadra Širazija
Fazlur Rahman

Metafizika egzistencije

[46] Mulla Sadra odbacuje to gledanje tvrdeći kako je nemoguće da samo Božiji bitak treba tvoriti egzistenciju kontingencija - supstanci ili akcidenata. To stoga što, u slučaju mnogih egzistenata, čija esencija je identična (čovjek, naprimjer), ondje neće ostati bilo kakva razlika među njima, i što će njihova egzistencija također biti jedna i ista, to jest individualni bitak Božiji


Peer comment(s):

agree Nedzad Selmanovic : zašto izvinjavanje. ja sam vaš komentar shvatio u sasvim pozitivnom svjetlu, i isto bih uradio da ste stavili disagree. Svi imamo pravo na vlastito mišljenje i tumačenje pojmova, zar ne? agree, disagree, neutral. It's up to your point of view.
34 mins
agree :-))
agree Dino Lovric
2 days 14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "hvala"
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own identity

mislim da je posrijedi vlastiti identitet ili samoidentitet

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Note added at 1 hr 46 mins (2004-04-27 14:41:07 GMT)
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... Vjerujte u Sebe (Jastvo, Atman) iu Gurua iu svete spise koji vam kažu da ... Nakon što je dana definicija, zar nije jednostavnije (zbog uštede vremena i prostora ...
http://www.yogacentar.hr/jnana2.htm


... ateista, trebalo bi biti ateizam a sam ateizam, koja mu je definicija ? ... da je logički ateist, mislim da je njegov put put samospoznaje orijentiran na jastvo. ...
http://www.index.hr/ forum/topic.aspx?idForum=8&idTopic=10403&page=4

Dalje, mislim da se ovdje polazi od sloga ja sam, pa samim tim i jastvo kao takvo upućuje na identificiranje vlastite ličnosti.
Peer comment(s):

neutral BUZOV : bi li moglo biti što iz DUALIZMA(Bogumili)Bijelbog - Crnbog , (Zaratustra)Ahura Mazda - Ahriman, ili onaj (je l' se tako zvao) Maadi ... jastvo da bi bilo"suštastvo/mrvica svjetla" pojedinca te Jastvo = ukupnost svjetl. mrvica pojedin. = Bog = Suština
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hvala vam velika. komentar sam dao u odjeljku "note".
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12 hrs

self, ego

self/Self - ego/Ego

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Cheers!
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