Feb 1, 2013 20:12
11 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Padrinos
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Genealogy
god parents, possibly parents?
I have a Catholic Church birth entry document from Mexico in the 1750's. It lists the infants name, Joseph Trinidad, born in the house of Francisco Xavier Amezcua then the "Padrinos' name is listed as the same male and his wife, no parents named (which is odd). Would Padrinos, in the 1700s also mean parents possibly?
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That's definitely what the term means. As to the reason why the parents are not named, it could be that they passed away for some reason before the child's birth certificate was produced, leaving the child in the custody of the godparents.
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philgoddard
: http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/padrino
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Charles Davis
: Yes. It had the same meaning in the eighteenth century as now.
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Jose Arnoldo Rodriguez-Carrington
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Christina McGown
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Robert Copeland
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Lisa McCarthy
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bizisyl
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Morwenna81
: Godparents are those who hang the baby at the baptism ceremony. In case the child's parents die, they usually take responsibility for the child/minor.
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The absence of the parents' names could simply be an oversight, or the priest may not have known their names. He wouldn't necessarily have bothered about it; the names of the godparents would have more important to him.
But a likely explanation is illegitimacy. The record of Lope de Vega's illegitimate daughter Marcela, baptised in Toledo in 1605, of which I have a copy, says "bautize a Marcela, hija de Padres no conocidos". The priest here was almost certainly aware of the parents' names but did not record them. If this could happen in Toledo in 1605 it could certainly happen in colonial Mexico in the 1750s.
This child, born in the house of Francisco Xavier Amezcua, who acted as godfather, could have been the illegitimate child of his daughter, or of one of his servants, for example. If so, it is not unlikely that the parentage would simply not have been mentioned.