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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

passager hors correspondance

English translation:

excluding transfers

Added to glossary by Yves Barry Ben
Oct 20, 2019 13:10
4 yrs ago
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French term

passager hors correspondance

French to English Bus/Financial Transport / Transportation / Shipping Railway report
Context:

" Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager hors correspondance.

Concernant l’offre de transport à grande vitesse, le nombre de circulations OUIGO a presque doublé en 2018 et la part de cette marque atteint 5,5 % du nombre de circulations TAGV domestiques en 2018 contre 2,9 % en 2017."
Proposed translations (English)
4 +5 excluding transfers
4 -1 interline passenger
3 -1 unlinked passengers
4 -2 Average travelled distance per passenger - connected travel excluded
3 -2 passengers without connections

Discussion

Wolf Draeger Oct 22, 2019:
Correspondances Here does it mean transfers/changes between trains or intermodal connections to stations (bus, tram, etc.)? The latter seems more likely to me; how would you calculate the former, and to what end?

Proposed translations

+5
5 hrs
Selected

excluding transfers

You have parsed this incorrectly:

"Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager/ hors correspondance."


Average distance travelled by each passenger, excluding transfers.
Peer comment(s):
neutral Daryo : what they have in mind is not so much the "transfers" but the travels / journeys passengers get transferred to (or from)
6 mins
That's what my answer means, i.e. each leg of the journey. (Note that the noun "travel" is uncountable.)
agree philgoddard
1 hr
Thanks phil
agree Yolanda Broad
2 hrs
Thanks Yolanda
agree James A. Walsh : Been translating for SNCF over the last 10 years thru a French agency, and this would be my choice here, without a doubt!
3 hrs
Thanks James, and for the endorsement!
agree Stephanie Benoist
6 hrs
Thanks Stephanie
agree Eliza Hall
18 hrs
Thanks Eliza
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-1
10 mins

unlinked passengers

See, for example, https://www.bts.gov/archive/publications/transportation_stat...
"non-transfer passengers" is also used, but much less frequently.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Daryo : no, that would mean excluding passengers who took another train before of after the journey.
5 hrs
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-1
15 mins

interline passenger

Peer comment(s):
disagree B D Finch : That's the exact opposite of the term required.
5 hrs
Agreed: my apologies to all for this gaffe!
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-2
5 hrs

passengers without connections

Hello
We speak of connecting flights. Maybe a bit rarer with trains but I think it okay and is probably understandable in the context.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Tony M : This would sound rather risible! We do of course talk about 'connecting trains' — but it is the trains or the journeys that have 'connections', not the poor passengers! "Whose journeys do not involve conections"
9 mins
okay then "without connecting trains"
neutral Daryo : you should check what a dictionary of slang has to say about "being connected" - I very much doubt they had THAT kind of "connections" in mind ... // "connecting trains" yes, that could work.
22 mins
okay then "without connecting trains"
disagree Eliza Hall : BD Finch is correct.
18 hrs
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-2
5 hrs
French term (edited): Distance moyenne parcourue par chaque passager hors correspondance

Average travelled distance per passenger - connected travel excluded

it means that if a passenger takes another train once at destination, that continuation of the journey / connected travel on another train is not counted for the purpose of these statistics. (or if the passenger started the journey after arriving at the departure station by another connected train)

These statistics are only showing the trips on the monitored service - not the trip to get to the departure station, nor the continuations after the arrival station.


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Note added at 6 hrs (2019-10-20 19:13:26 GMT)
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here it seems that the statistics are about journeys on high-speed trains, excluding the connected travel after (or before) on "normal" trains.
Peer comment(s):
disagree philgoddard : "Connected travel" makes no sense to me.
1 hr
"Connected flight" makes no sense either? People in the airlines should be informed that they are using nonsense language ... // just because the "trade jargon" is unknown to you doesn't make it "nonsense" - it makes perfect sense to those who are "in".
disagree GILLES MEUNIER : vous traduisez à l'envers.....
3 days 8 hrs
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