Oct 2, 2005 20:48
18 yrs ago
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Swedish term

i och med ...

Swedish to English Bus/Financial Insurance product insurance
I do not get the meaning of the last part afete i och med - does it mean you will get a new one or not... ?
Vid totalskada eller vid stöld genom inbrott upphör försäkringen att gälla i och med att ersättning lämnas med ny produkt.
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Oct 2, 2005 23:08: Michele Fauble changed "Level" from "PRO" to "Non-PRO"

Oct 3, 2005 08:56: Michele Fauble changed "Level" from "Non-PRO" to "PRO"

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Non-PRO (1): Alasdair Graham-Brown

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Proposed translations

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11 hrs
Selected

when/as soon as

The insurance ceases to apply when/as soon as the product has been replaced by a new one.
Peer comment(s):

agree E2efour (X) : Precisely! But I prefer the simpler "Cover ceases" to "the insurance ceases to apply"
40 mins
Thank you Barry, and good point! :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+2
12 mins

since

My take on it.

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Note added at 15 mins (2005-10-02 21:03:45 GMT)
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And yes, I do think it means you will get a new one.
Peer comment(s):

agree ojinaga : That's it
6 hrs
thanks
agree George Hopkins
9 hrs
thanks
neutral E2efour (X) : Unlikely. i och med att is used "för att beteckna samtidighet eller viss parallelitet e.d. (samtidigt med, på samma gång som, tillika med) (quoted from the authoritative Svensk handordbok)
2 days 11 hrs
Actual usage shows that it can often be translated as 'since' - ' I och med att ..., så .... '.
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-1
18 mins

.... the insurance ceases to apply as compensation is via the provision of a new product

This is too simple a question for pro.
Peer comment(s):

disagree E2efour (X) : I find this wording unnatural. We are talking about replacement (not the provision of a new product). Also I think i och med means more "if/when/as soon as" rather than "because".
11 hrs
Yes - I agree to a certain extent. However, we are talking about important documentation here and accuracy is more important than fluency. Would you like to see if you can accurately to reproduce the source in elegant English. (In translation we som
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+1
9 hrs

when

The insurence cease 'when' compensation is payed.

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Note added at 11 hrs 0 min (2005-10-03 07:48:35 GMT)
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'from time of compensation'is also a possibility.
Peer comment(s):

agree E2efour (X)
2 days 2 hrs
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