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Oct 18, 2006 16:17
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Spanish term

fingiendo

Spanish to English Social Sciences Archaeology Mexico
... el sacerdocio y la nobleza de diversas ciudades del México antiguo ingerían pulque mezclado con sustancias psicotrópicas, fingiendo la utilización de estos objetos [vasos].

Since the vessels or cups were actually used to drink the substance, I cannot figure out what "fingiendo" means in this context. TIA!
Proposed translations (English)
5 +1 feigning
2 +2 masking/hiding its content when they used these objects/utensils
2 +1 concealed (see explanation)
3 as if they were using
3 fungiendo = making use of, performing

Discussion

Patricia Rosas (asker) Oct 18, 2006:
Thanks for your concern ;-) I wrote to one of the people working on this document this morning and haven't had an answer ... but when I do I'll let you know what he says...
Ronnie McKee Oct 18, 2006:
Is it possible that "objetos" is referring to the "pulque" and "sustancias psicotrópicos" and not to the "vasos"? Not that it would make much anything much easier......
Patricia Rosas (asker) Oct 18, 2006:
Carol--they've been a lot of typos in the manuscript, but this doesn't seem to be a likely spot for missing text (it's the end of the paragraph). Perhaps "fingiendo" is an error --just a poor word choice. Thanks for trying to help! It's always good to know that I'm not crazy!
Carol Gullidge Oct 18, 2006:
I see what you mean! Could there possibly be missing text after 'objetos'?

Proposed translations

+1
5 mins

concealed (see explanation)

Yes, I see your dilemma! I wonder could it mean that they concealed the fact that they were taking these substances by drinking them from the vessels in question (which were normally used for some other drink ... )??
Note from asker:
Thanks for your help with this. Unfortunately, it seems to be some sort of typo or error, and the publisher hasn't gotten back to me. So, I'm closing the question without grading. I appreciate your help anyway!
Peer comment(s):
agree Juan Viloria : Ciertamente, pues la palabr propiadada es: Disimulando = Conceiling. Este es el verbo. Suerte.
49 mins
Muchas gracias Alfarero, pero permíteme corregirte la ortografía: no es "conceiling" sino "concealing". ;))
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+2
6 mins

masking/hiding its content when they used these objects/utensils

Estoy adivinando, lo único que se me ocurre, es que usaban esos vasos para esconder o disimular que es lo que en realidad bebían, ¿puede ser? A ver si alguien más enterado te ayuda.
Note from asker:
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Peer comment(s):
agree Margarita Ezquerra (Smart Translators, S.L.)
1 min
Gracias - teju :)
agree Robert Copeland
37 mins
)Gracias Robert - teju :)
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6 mins

as if they were using

a suggestion

Pretend to be using is another option, but doesn't sound good to me.

Suerte!

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Note added at 8 mins (2006-10-18 16:25:41 GMT)
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Sorry, I havn't read the second paragraph.

I'm as lost as you, then.
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24 mins

fungiendo = making use of, performing

fingir ---> fungir

just in case it is a typo



fungir
verbo intransitivo
ACent, Cuba, Méx, Venez Ejercer las funciones propias de un oficio o un cargo: fungir de abogado; fungir como profesor.
Conjug. [6] como dirigir .


Diccionario de Uso del Español de América Vox © Larousse Editorial S.L. 2005 :: Sinónimos y Antónimos de la Lengua Española

fungible
adjetivo
1 ( un material )gastable ,agotable ,consumible
Generalmente se emplea en la expresión material fungible.

Note from asker:
Thanks for your help with this. Unfortunately, it seems to be some sort of typo or error, and the publisher hasn't gotten back to me. I think you may be right about "fungir" but I'm just not sure. So, I'm closing the question without grading. I appreciate your help anyway!
Peer comment(s):
neutral teju : Ojalá hubiera otra manera de hablar, aparte del "neutral". Entonces, ¿piensas que quiere decir "making use of the utilization of these objects"? Wouldn't that be a bit redundant?
26 mins
pensé en fungiendo los sacerdotes sus ritos... no sé si encajará con el resto del contexto, es solamente una idea... saludos AB
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+1
37 mins

feigning

They were being deceitful by using the cups(vessels) for something for which they were not intended.

v. feigned, feign·ing, feigns
v.tr.
1.
a. To give a false appearance of: feign sleep.
b. To represent falsely; pretend to: feign authorship of a novel.
2. To imitate so as to deceive: feign another's voice.
3. To fabricate: feigned an excuse.
4. Archaic To invent or imagine.
v.intr.
To pretend; dissemble.
Note from asker:
Thanks for your help with this. Unfortunately, it seems to be some sort of typo or error, and the publisher hasn't gotten back to me. So, I'm closing the question without grading. I appreciate your help anyway!
Peer comment(s):
agree Silvia Brandon-Pérez : Me parece que es lo correcto.
1 hr
Thank you!
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