May 22, 2007 06:09
17 yrs ago
German term
acidylierten Aminoderivaten
FVA
Not for points
German to English
Medical
Medical: Pharmaceuticals
The text deals with the preparation of the amino derivatives.
Proposed translations
(English)
5 +5 | acylated aminoderivatives | Marcelo Silveyra |
4 | carboxylated amino derivatives | Gillian Scheibelein |
3 +1 | acetylated amino derivatives/compounds | Anne Schulz |
Proposed translations
+5
1 hr
Selected
acylated aminoderivatives
Pretty straight-forward, I think. Right? Anyone?
Note from asker:
thank you |
Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
4 hrs
carboxylated amino derivatives
Acidyliert... is of course rubbish.
If the author is referring to an acid group this would be "carboxylated" i.e. a COO- functionality (as opposed to the R-CO- functionality (acyl) proposed by Marcello)
Ref.: I am a chemist
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-22 11:47:50 GMT)
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I think the problem stems from the fact that an acid group is designated as "carboxy..." in English. Instead of looking for the correct term, I suspect the author (pharmacist/biochemist - who are notorious at getting nomenclature wrong!) simplified matters by calling it an acidylating group - anything using "säure" is even more weird.
All amino acids are in fact carboxylated amino compounds
If the author is referring to an acid group this would be "carboxylated" i.e. a COO- functionality (as opposed to the R-CO- functionality (acyl) proposed by Marcello)
Ref.: I am a chemist
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-22 11:47:50 GMT)
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I think the problem stems from the fact that an acid group is designated as "carboxy..." in English. Instead of looking for the correct term, I suspect the author (pharmacist/biochemist - who are notorious at getting nomenclature wrong!) simplified matters by calling it an acidylating group - anything using "säure" is even more weird.
All amino acids are in fact carboxylated amino compounds
+1
2 hrs
acetylated amino derivatives/compounds
It appears that "acidyliert" is an old (or maybe local?) version of "acetyliert" which would translate to "acetylated"/"acetylised" rather than "acylated".
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-22 11:20:29 GMT)
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For 'acidyliert' = 'acetyliert' see e.g. this journal article from 1939:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/b67600hg25g6p142/
...acidylierte Oxybenzoesäuren (Propionyl- und Butyrylsalicylsäure,
Acetyl- und Chloracetyl-jodsalicylsäure...)
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-05-22 20:05:37 GMT)
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Oops, I just realized that the reference quoted supports "acylated" rather than "acetylated" - as by "Acidylierung" multiple acyl salicylic acid compounds are created.
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-22 11:20:29 GMT)
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For 'acidyliert' = 'acetyliert' see e.g. this journal article from 1939:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/b67600hg25g6p142/
...acidylierte Oxybenzoesäuren (Propionyl- und Butyrylsalicylsäure,
Acetyl- und Chloracetyl-jodsalicylsäure...)
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Note added at 13 hrs (2007-05-22 20:05:37 GMT)
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Oops, I just realized that the reference quoted supports "acylated" rather than "acetylated" - as by "Acidylierung" multiple acyl salicylic acid compounds are created.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Gillian Scheibelein (meets criteria)
: acetylated (CH3CO) is included by acylated (RCO)//edit: acylated covers acetylated (the more specific term). Both are quite a long way from acidyl.....
1 hr
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Thanks for your comment and suggestion, Gillian. I am not sure, though, why this should be an argument against 'acidyliert' = 'acetyliert'.
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