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English term or phrase:
Categorical Programs
Russian translation:
программы для особых категорий учащихся (категориальные программы)
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alex11
Jul 20, 2007 16:39
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English term
Categorical Programs
English to Russian
Social Sciences
Education / Pedagogy
For US usage of translation : Would you translate “ Categorical Programs “ as obiazatelnyje прграммы OR would you leave in Russian translation those programs as is : «Категорические программы»
Client stated regarding this: “categorical” is just another word for different subject area of the programs such as: liberal arts, math, social studies, etc. The I asked some natives and they told me : Never heard about… I guess this is something new , but to me it is not a subject of studies like math or social studies..
What do you think guys?
Does anyone met those? Could you pls provide links to officially translated to Russian docs. Thank you.
Client stated regarding this: “categorical” is just another word for different subject area of the programs such as: liberal arts, math, social studies, etc. The I asked some natives and they told me : Never heard about… I guess this is something new , but to me it is not a subject of studies like math or social studies..
What do you think guys?
Does anyone met those? Could you pls provide links to officially translated to Russian docs. Thank you.
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программы для особых категорий учащихся (категориальные программы)
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Сергей Лузан
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программы для различных категорий учащихся
после просмотра линков.
журнал 06.2002 Новый учебник - новые подходы
Именно для нужд этой категории учащихся в США в 1998 году был издан учебник "International Law for Undergraduates", написанный профессором Школы права ...
www.mid.ru/dip_vest.nsf/99b2ddc4f717c733c32567370042ee43/38... ..
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Я бы сформулировал так. Ссылки не очень убедительны (если не считать впечатляющих сумм :), н омне такая версия кажется правильной.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&hl=ru&q="программы для...
журнал 06.2002 Новый учебник - новые подходы
Именно для нужд этой категории учащихся в США в 1998 году был издан учебник "International Law for Undergraduates", написанный профессором Школы права ...
www.mid.ru/dip_vest.nsf/99b2ddc4f717c733c32567370042ee43/38... ..
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Я бы сформулировал так. Ссылки не очень убедительны (если не считать впечатляющих сумм :), н омне такая версия кажется правильной.
http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&hl=ru&q="программы для...
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boostrer
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Спасибо за мнения, Борис! :) Согласен с Вашими соображениями - переводить в зависимости от того, на чём делается упор. Тут либо - упор на категории учащихся, или на целевую направленность программ. Отсмотрите, кстати, ответы dennis_bg на вопрос :)
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целевые образовательные программы
..., финансируемые из бюджета и контролируемые государственными органами на предмет их соответствия поставленным задачам.
Эти программы расчитаны не только на учащихся из неблагополучных семей, мигрантов, бездомных, но и на "нормальных" учеников из малонаселенных районов, а также на гранты для одаренных детей, на обучение детей-инвалидов, на профобразование. Посему мне кажется более корректным делать упор не на категории учащихся, а на целевую направленность программ.
См.: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:_lxhckCnS4YJ:www.state....
22-55-102. Definitions. AS USED IN THIS ARTICLE, UNLESS THE CONTEXT OTHERWISE REQUIRES:
(1) "CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS" INCLUDE ONLY THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS:
(a) PUBLIC SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 51 OF THIS TITLE;
(b) THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROFICIENCY PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-24-104;
(c) THE EXPELLED AND AT-RISK STUDENT SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-33-205;
(d) SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 20 OF THIS TITLE;
(e) SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR GIFTED CHILDREN AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 20 OF THIS TITLE;
(f) THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR IN-SCHOOL OR IN-HOME SUSPENSION DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 37 OF THIS TITLE;
(g) VOCATIONAL EDUCATION AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 8 OF TITLE 23, C.R.S.;
(h) SMALL ATTENDANCE CENTERS FOR WHICH STATE AID IS AVAILABLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 22-54-122;
(i) THE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-25-104; AND
(j) OTHER CURRENT AND FUTURE ACCOUNTABLE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN STATUTE AS A CATEGORICAL PROGRAM.
Эти программы расчитаны не только на учащихся из неблагополучных семей, мигрантов, бездомных, но и на "нормальных" учеников из малонаселенных районов, а также на гранты для одаренных детей, на обучение детей-инвалидов, на профобразование. Посему мне кажется более корректным делать упор не на категории учащихся, а на целевую направленность программ.
См.: http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:_lxhckCnS4YJ:www.state....
22-55-102. Definitions. AS USED IN THIS ARTICLE, UNLESS THE CONTEXT OTHERWISE REQUIRES:
(1) "CATEGORICAL PROGRAMS" INCLUDE ONLY THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS:
(a) PUBLIC SCHOOL TRANSPORTATION AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 51 OF THIS TITLE;
(b) THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE PROFICIENCY PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-24-104;
(c) THE EXPELLED AND AT-RISK STUDENT SERVICES GRANT PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-33-205;
(d) SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN WITH DISABILITIES AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 20 OF THIS TITLE;
(e) SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR GIFTED CHILDREN AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 20 OF THIS TITLE;
(f) THE GRANT PROGRAM FOR IN-SCHOOL OR IN-HOME SUSPENSION DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 37 OF THIS TITLE;
(g) VOCATIONAL EDUCATION AS DESCRIBED IN ARTICLE 8 OF TITLE 23, C.R.S.;
(h) SMALL ATTENDANCE CENTERS FOR WHICH STATE AID IS AVAILABLE PURSUANT TO SECTION 22-54-122;
(i) THE COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH EDUCATION PROGRAM CREATED IN SECTION 22-25-104; AND
(j) OTHER CURRENT AND FUTURE ACCOUNTABLE PROGRAMS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED IN STATUTE AS A CATEGORICAL PROGRAM.
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прогаммы для нуждающихся категорий учащихся
в контексте упоминаний таких программ в США речь идёт об учениках из неблагополучных семей, инвалидах, и пр.
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Да, пожалуй "для особых категорий" будет оптимально.
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Да, пожалуй "для особых категорий" будет оптимально.
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специальные программы
Собственно говоря, неясно, зачем что-то изобретать
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***agree with Vera12191, целевые образовательные программы
Dear colleagues, please have a look at the definition I got today from the American teacher. Unfortunately, too late for your discussion, but those who may be interested in translation of this term may use this information:
My question:
Could anybody help me and clarify the meaning of "categorical programs"? Do these categorical programs mean programs for special categories of students or do they have a wider meaning? Does the meaning also imply that these programs get funds from the state?
Reply:
Categorical programs are funds allocated to school districts that can only be used for a specific purpose. These programs include things like books for school libraries, English language teaching, reading instruction, computers, etc. Depending on the program, funds may pay for things like teachers, aides, supplies, equipment, transportation, facilities, etc. So a school district will have an office that keeps track of these programs and makes sure that program guidelines are being followed. There are many individual programs and some (many? most?) districts don't keep track. The funds for categorical programs come from the state and federal government.
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3rd grade teacher
West Sacramento, CA
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По описанию это "целевые образовательные программы", т.е. направленные на конкрентные цели, имеющие отношение к образованию, финансируемые штатом или государством.
My question:
Could anybody help me and clarify the meaning of "categorical programs"? Do these categorical programs mean programs for special categories of students or do they have a wider meaning? Does the meaning also imply that these programs get funds from the state?
Reply:
Categorical programs are funds allocated to school districts that can only be used for a specific purpose. These programs include things like books for school libraries, English language teaching, reading instruction, computers, etc. Depending on the program, funds may pay for things like teachers, aides, supplies, equipment, transportation, facilities, etc. So a school district will have an office that keeps track of these programs and makes sure that program guidelines are being followed. There are many individual programs and some (many? most?) districts don't keep track. The funds for categorical programs come from the state and federal government.
_____________
3rd grade teacher
West Sacramento, CA
______________
По описанию это "целевые образовательные программы", т.е. направленные на конкрентные цели, имеющие отношение к образованию, финансируемые штатом или государством.
Discussion
Thank you all. To Sergey Luzan – you are thinking correctly but in legal translation it is important to state within limits and often to be more literal then liberal, although from the perspective of language you are quite correct. Thank you All!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=ru&q=категориальные программ...
Katia you are right. Conclusion was achieved when peers were discussing your question previously. I found what made me confused, when I said that conclusion was not reached. I did look through Ur discussion very briefly and because you added and choose «грантовые программы для особых категорий учащихся», I thought – it is not working for me, because word грантовые took my thoughts away. If One is translating those laws- all programs they are talking about are from programs financed by grant category, and I needed to distinct between categorical programs and block grants programs. I did very extensive research and I deeply appreciate all your efforts and input. Vanda for your firm believe in yourself, Katia for being such a hi IQ lady, Igor (for your infor about already discussed question), Ann Nosova – Huge Thank you!
Dennis_bg – special thank you for your link to a great article by American professor. That article helped tremendously to clear definitions. That is why I am choosing your answer in corrected version:
программы для особых категорий учащихся (категориальные программы) – just like that.
I did check link by Igor Boiko. Thank you Igor, but I must admit- I agree with Roman – that discussion didn’t bring a true conclusion.
I would probably translate such as following: программы для особых категорий учащихся.
What do you think guys?
At the end I am more of a lawyer then linguist.
http://esl.proz.com/kudoz/2027828